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i am living in georgia, we don't have in school chess club. :(

i want to became GM but i do not want to be only GM.

i want to be psychologist, and Grand master.

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PowerfulGod wrote:

i am living in georgia, we don't have in school chess club. :(

i want to became GM but i do not want to be only GM.

i want to be psychologist, and Grand master.

And I want to win the lottery but I'm not even playing.

 

Just wanting something is useless, you achieve things by working hard for them. In your case, be a psychologist because that is quite sure to earn you money, and forget about being a chess GM - chances are you're too old and untalented for that anyway.

 

Keep chess as a hobby and have fun, that's what games were originally beeing designed for.

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You think it's impossible? i don't i will do both, i will train in chess and also i will learn.

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at 13 I learned the game after watching old guys playing in the park that summer...at 14 in high school, I joined chess club - beat everyone I came across and made it to state championship...in the 6th game there I lost to a  stupid blunder...my all or nothing attitude did me in..I said fuck it and walked away from the game

...I was tested with IQ at the 99% percentile when I was 15 y.o. in that psych ward I landed in for trying to off myself...(my brain's turned into oatmeal since)

You need a lot more than just IQ to become GM - you need to want it really really bad that you can block out everything else that's going on in your life and in your own mind so that all you care about is the game and not take your eye off the ball.

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Yeah but then i saw grand master's iq their iq were much higher then my.

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See, already, you should be practicing your game right now, reading books on tactics and strategies instead of wasting your time talking about wanting to become GM...

You're talking more than you are doing....not a good sign...

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Feufollet wrote:

See, already, you should be practicing your game right now, reading books on tactics and strategies instead of wasting your time talking about wanting to become GM...

You're talking more than you are doing....not a good sign...

More or less sums it up.

It's fine to want the title, but I suspect most people who made GM, when they were beginning, didn't care at all about that. They were passionate about learning. When they weren't reading a book or analyzing, they were at a tournaments getting experience.

What you want seems to amount to "I want to be really really good at chess" so after you get close to 2000 you'll probably stop, because you'll already be better than nearly 99% of chess players.

Or maybe you want recognition, in which case you'll probably stop much earlier, maybe 1300, when you'll be able to win 99% of games against casual non-tourney players.

That's my two cents anyway.

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Look, I mean no offense, but you have no buisiness aiming for a GM title yet.

 

If you need to ask that means you're simply not at the point in chess yet where the question can come up seriously.

Try to get a NM title instead. It's achievable without a coach and will give you a realistic idea of your own capabilities. If you achieve that, you will know yourself whether it is feasable to aim for an IM title after that or not.

 

And if you achieve an IM title, then by all means go and try for GM, by then you will have proven to have exceptional talent in chess.

 

And as for the IQ numbers you might have read (always assuming this isn't just a troll thread as it looks more and more like one) then my advice is to not believe everything you read.

Psychological warfare aka "metagaming" is part of high level chess, and if you are intimidated by some 3-digit number posted by some GM who offers zero proof for his claim, then you have already half lost the game.

 

Don't get me wrong, some GMs *are* on genius level intelligence, but others are not. I would be doubtful if your IQ was in the 70-80 area, but everything significantly above average (100) should be fine.

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Dirty_Sandbagger wrote:

Look, I mean no offense, but you have no buisiness aiming for a GM title yet.

 

If you need to ask that means you're simply not at the point in chess yet where the question can come up seriously.

Try to get a NM title instead. It's achievable without a coach and will give you a realistic idea of your own capabilities. If you achieve that, you will know yourself whether it is feasable to aim for an IM title after that or not.

 

And if you achieve an IM title, then by all means go and try for GM, by then you will have proven to have exceptional talent in chess.

 

And as for the IQ numbers you might have read (always assuming this isn't just a troll thread as it looks more and more like one) then my advice is to not believe everything you read.

Psychological warfare aka "metagaming" is part of high level chess, and if you are intimidated by some 3-digit number posted by some GM who offers zero proof for his claim, then you have already half lost the game.

 

Don't get me wrong, some GMs *are* on genius level intelligence, but others are not. I would be doubtful if your IQ was in the 70-80 area, but everything significantly above average (100) should be fine.

i am going to do exactly this.