Is 1000 a good rating?

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It would be nice if we know the average ratings of chess.com users.
But I dont have these data.

 

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Pan_troglodites wrote:

It would be nice if we know the average ratings of chess.com users.
But I dont have these data.

 

812 is the average rating. You can check by looking at the leader boards and on the right side it will say the average rating 

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ricorat wrote:
Pan_troglodites wrote:

It would be nice if we know the average ratings of chess.com users.
But I dont have these data.

 

812 is the average rating. You can check by looking at the leader boards and on the right side it will say the average rating 

Average rating for which category?

The average rating in Daily is 1033.

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blueemu wrote:
ricorat wrote:
Pan_troglodites wrote:

It would be nice if we know the average ratings of chess.com users.
But I dont have these data.

 

812 is the average rating. You can check by looking at the leader boards and on the right side it will say the average rating 

Average rating for which category?

The average rating in Daily is 1033.

Ahhh yeah I probably should have said, it’s rapid which is also the most played time control on the site

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SURE!!!!! Lol

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NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
I’ve seen that chart a zillion times. It’s just plain wrong. Rating measures relative skill within a group, not absolute skill. A 1000 rated player today would smash a 1000 rated player from 30 years ago. Your typical 1000 these days watches lots of videos, does lots of puzzles, and plays hundreds of more games. They know a decent amount of theory and generally lose because of loose pieces or losses to simple tactics. To classify them as beginners is not only wrong, but offensive.

The chess.com bots are rated as follows: beginner bots are up to 850. Intermediate bots are 1000-1400. Advanced bots are 1500-2000, with master above that. That seems more fair. To lump someone who is in the 75th percentile on chess.com and actually studies, in with someone who thinks Ruy López is an imported beer is silly.

You can disagree with me if you want, but the term for beginner has evolved to mean more than just someone new to a game but someone at a lower level. It is not offensive to say someone is a certain level based on their rating, the point of a rating is literally to measure someone’s skill level to give them fairer matches

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jaro488 wrote:

You can disagree with me if you want, but the term for beginner has evolved to mean more than just someone new to a game but someone at a lower level.

Lower level than what?

In Rapid, a 1000 rating is higher than 75% of the players on chess.com... isn't it?

You're saying that only the top 20-25% are not "at a lower level"?

Why stop there? Why aren't everybody but the top 1% "at a lower level"?

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blueemu wrote:
jaro488 wrote:

You can disagree with me if you want, but the term for beginner has evolved to mean more than just someone new to a game but someone at a lower level.

Lower level that what?

In Rapid, a 1000 rating is higher than 75% of the players on chess.com... isn't it?

You're saying that only the top 20-25% are not "at a lower level"?

The percentile is extremely inaccurate. That’s including every single account ever to play a game of live chess. 

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blueemu wrote:
jaro488 wrote:

You can disagree with me if you want, but the term for beginner has evolved to mean more than just someone new to a game but someone at a lower level.

Lower level than what?

In Rapid, a 1000 rating is higher than 75% of the players on chess.com... isn't it?

You're saying that only the top 20-25% are not "at a lower level"?

Why stop there? Why aren't everybody but the top 1% "at a lower level"?

It’s funny to see that people that most would call “beginners” are better than 75% of people who play the game

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I've got no worries either way, of course. I don't have a horse in this race.

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look, a rating of 1000 is easily achievable. Being better than 75% of chess.com accounts means nothing. When I was 1000, I would miss obvious tactics and mates and hang pawns constantly, any 1000s I play are not very different.

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jaro488 wrote:

look, a rating of 1000 is easily achievable. Being better than 75% of chess.com accounts means nothing. When I was 1000, I would miss obvious tactics and mates and hang pawns constantly, any 1000s I play are not very different.

I didn't say that 1000-rated players were wizards at the game. I said that extending the category of "lower level players" until it encompasses 3/4 of the user-base sounds like a very artificial and stilted classification system.

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Most accounts play like 5 games and never go back on chess.com again

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This is extremely relative and impossible to measure, but I mean in comparison to active chess players who study and actively play, 1000 is at a very low level

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jaro488 wrote:

This is extremely relative and impossible to measure, but I mean in comparison to active chess players who study and actively play, 1000 is at a very low level

Jeeze... I don't study, and I've played two games in the past three years. Does that make me a 1000 player, too?

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blueemu wrote:
jaro488 wrote:

This is extremely relative and impossible to measure, but I mean in comparison to active chess players who study and actively play, 1000 is at a very low level

Jeeze... I don't study, and I've played two games in the past three years. Does that make me a 1000 player, too?

What

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the pure number (here: 1000) is uninteresting and difficult to evaluate! what is much more interesting and meaningful is your place in the gaussian normal distribution. its the answer of the question how good you are compared with all the other player. did you left behind more than the half amount of players or are you just exactly on 50% or are more than half of the players better than you? that brings you in relation to something meaningful. and, by the way: you did not mention in what kind of chess you want an answer. think it's a great difference to have 1000 p in bullet or in chess960....

 

 

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archaja wrote:

the pure number (here: 1000) is uninteresting and difficult to evaluate! what is much more interesting and meaningful is your place in the gaussian normal distribution. its the answer of the question how good you are compared with all the other player. did you left behind more than the half amount of players or are you just exactly on 50% or are more than half of the players better than you? that brings you in relation to something meaningful. and, by the way: you did not mention in what kind of chess you want an answer. think it's a great difference to have 1000 p in bullet or in chess960....

 

 

im sure we are all talking about rapid

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@jaro488 what makes you so shure? the op plays blitz, bullet, rapid. and in rapid he is near the 400 points he/she/it mentioned in the beginning.

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Jaro thinks 1000 is easy. Ridiculous. I used to be 1500 uscf in high school. I know more about chess than most people, but because of a medical condition I can’t calculate anymore and the moves become a jumble, so my rating is about 1000 (though to be fair, I resign a lot of games against London and Scandi players in the opening because I won’t be a party to that). Last week I mated with knight/bishop/king. I’ve got game 6 of Fischer/Spassky committed to memory. I bristle at the notion of being called a beginner.