That's not the entirety of the disqualifier though -- the other piece is that they're also competitive at the top level of the game.
Wait, let me get this straight: The players on the local high school basketball team aren't athletes because LeBron James would crush them?????
That's not the entirety of the disqualifier though -- the other piece is that they're also competitive at the top level of the game.
Wait, let me get this straight: The players on the local high school basketball team aren't athletes because LeBron James would crush them?????
No, you're also only looking at half of the disqualifier. They're also presumably not morbidly obese, correct?
If you can be morbidly obese and still compete at the top level of the activity, it is clearly not a sport.
George Foreman among a lot of other heavy weight boxers (Butterbean). Other athletes would include some of the wrestles of old. There are a number of other sports where rather weighty people have competed at the highest levels, John Daly in golf along with a number of others. Sumo wrestling, it is a requirement. Shooting is another where morbidly obese people can and do compete.
It's a guideline, but let's examine these "exceptions" a little bit:
If we were to say that these athletes (and they are clearly that) are in fact morbidly obese (which I feel is debatable), what exactly is it about these activities (which, with the exception of shooting, are clearly sports) that makes them exceptions to the guideline?
Generally competive shooting indeed is recognized as sports, I'm afraid.
The bottom line is that the definition of sport which has alredy been posted:
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an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc |
Isn't really adequete to adress the issue. As we know, just about anything can be interpreted as a physical activity. Knitting, Eating, Marbles, yes even video games, it takes just an ounce of common sense to realize that these things should never be considered sports. The problem is that there is no black and white line seperating exactly what defines a sport.
So an activity can really fall under three categoreis, black, white and gray
Black: No reasonable person can say the event ISN'T a sport (football, soccer, hockey,)
White: No reasonable person can say the event IS a sport (Video games..etc)
Grey: Reasonable people can differ on whether they think the activity is a sport.
Chess is cleary in the white category.
Note this is all before I even paid attention to the first word in the definition...Athletic, which pretty much throws out any possible explanation of why chess is a sport.
No, i think chess is grey
Then its simple, your not a reasonable person. There is absolutly nothing atheltic about chess.
Let me clarify...your view on chess is unreasonable
As I said earlier, chess not being a sport does not diminish it in any way -- "sport" a label, and one that the "chess is a sport" faction seem intent on undermining the value of because, I suspect, the idea that it is not a sport somehow means to them that it is a less worthy pursuit than those activities that are. This is simply not the case.
Basing the view on some other definition might similarly make your view unreasonable. If it makes sense to rely on the word "athletic" in this definition rather than the official list of sports from related organizational bodies is arguable, not a clear cut issue.
I think everyone relizes that the definition you show there is not adequate, as i do not think you can call it a sport if my brother and I try to see who can eat a sandwhich faster or who can chop a tree down quicker.
But i think generally calling someone unreasonable for having an opposite kind of view .. is unreasonable.
edit: Here's the first definition I found online, by no means is this the only definition that can exist.
"sport (spôrt, sprt)n.
I don't see your point. If all activities are physical then why bother calling some physical activities? In the definition you used physical does not include things like breathing and such. It means using your body in some way to influence something or perform an act.
Definition 3 is very broad and includes things like reading and watching TV or even sleeping. Hardly considered sports.
And that is not all the definitions of sport. Ever hear the expression "he is a good sport"? In that case it means someone who has a good attitude.
I have actually never said that anything involving physical activity is a sport, I have however stated that using the literal definition of physical activity you can not disqualify chess from being a sport (by definition).
"It means using your body in some way to influence something or perform an act."
Very well I will accept this definition of physical activity, now will you kindly name an action that your body can perform which does not fit this description? Playing chess is certainly "using your body in some way to influence something or to perform an act".
Your last point has absolutely nothing to do with anything by the way.
What part of the body in chess are we talking about?
Arm and hand?
Then blindfold wouldn't qualify unless speaking moves covers that part.
Moving a mouse?
Or is just enduring physically the time spent enough?
George Foreman among a lot of other heavy weight boxers (Butterbean). Other athletes would include some of the wrestles of old. There are a number of other sports where rather weighty people have competed at the highest levels, John Daly in golf along with a number of others. Sumo wrestling, it is a requirement. Shooting is another where morbidly obese people can and do compete.
It's a guideline, but let's examine these "exceptions" a little bit:
If we were to say that these athletes (and they are clearly that) are in fact morbidly obese (which I feel is debatable), what exactly is it about these activities (which, with the exception of shooting, are clearly sports) that makes them exceptions to the guideline?
No takers?
I used to play table tennis and even played in a tournament at the local table tennis club. I remember sweating my butt off and having lots of fun those days.
Local digital broadcast TV has a sports channel and includes some table tennis competitions.
Chess a game of war and a sport of science.
yes table tennis is an incredibly demanding sport. My wife is chinese and you should see some of the pro ping pong players in Asia. incredibly fit, agile, flexible and lightning reactions. They are often in positions where they are 4 or 5 metres away from the table during a game and have to mak a shot land from there.
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Neither.
Chess is an art and a science.
nice.