"Is Chess Becoming Too Memorization-Based? πŸ§ πŸ“š Where’s the Creativity? πŸŽ¨β™ŸοΈ"

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With modern opening theory πŸ“– going 30+ moves deep 😲 and engines πŸ€– calculating everything to perfection, some players feel chess is turning into a game of memory rather than creativity.

But is that really true? Or does memorization simply open doors πŸšͺ to even deeper strategies 🏰 and creative ideas πŸ’‘?

Points to Discuss:

Are modern games just engine prep battles πŸ’» vs. πŸ’»?
Does deep memorization kill the joy πŸ₯± of discovering new moves OTB?
Or is it part of the skill set that separates champions πŸ† from the rest?
Should there be formats with no opening books πŸ“• allowed to encourage raw creativity? πŸ”₯
What do you think? Is modern chess losing its artistic touch 🎨… or evolving into something even more beautiful? 🌟

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It will only get worse.

So don't worry about it

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Yes no need to worry because everything is worse already

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Can people not write for themselves? Is AI taking over? Where’s the creativity?

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IshaanJRagesh wrote:

With modern opening theory πŸ“– going 30+ moves deep 😲 and engines πŸ€– calculating everything to perfection, some players feel chess is turning into a game of memory rather than creativity.

But is that really true? Or does memorization simply open doors πŸšͺ to even deeper strategies 🏰 and creative ideas πŸ’‘?

Points to Discuss:

Are modern games just engine prep battles πŸ’» vs. πŸ’»?
Does deep memorization kill the joy πŸ₯± of discovering new moves OTB?
Or is it part of the skill set that separates champions πŸ† from the rest?
Should there be formats with no opening books πŸ“• allowed to encourage raw creativity? πŸ”₯
What do you think? Is modern chess losing its artistic touch 🎨… or evolving into something even more beautiful? 🌟

IMO even if and when chess is solved. It will be irrelevant to us humans. WE lack the capacity to remember enough moves and positions to make the game "boring and uninteresting".

Take endgame tablebases for instance.

A 7-piece chess endgame tablebase, depending on the format, can range from 17-20 TB for the Syzygy format to 140 TB for the Lomonosov format, containing nearly 424 trillion unique positions that are solved to determine the outcome of every possible endgame.

Yea...424 Trillion. And thats with just 7 pieces on the board. Now throw in mans imperfection and the game is just fine.

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These people be using gemini/chatgpt to be a β€œphilosopher” but here i am. Imma get ready to tire my hands.

Chess, an artistic game that supposedly never loses its touch. But now, in online chess, some people are using engines and get away with it. Though some people get banned, the rest linger in the shadows. Right now, chess is corrupting, especially online chess. At least, that’s what chess haters and checkers glazers say. Chess is really evolving, and people are getting smarter because of it! And it really shows how kingdoms go to war. It’s beautiful, really.

See how biased this is? This isn’t AI, it’s the art of humans. mypawnisapassedpawn (Pikachu) out! Peace!
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What is the point in responding to a guy who is too lazy to write his own post?

The opening post is 100% AI slop. Complete nonsense from the first word to the last. It belongs in the trash.

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Least obvious AI user ever

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opening theory i use very little of it however chess patterns do repeat themselves

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If you wrote that post yourself (which you didn't), it's still nonsense.

In a chess game, opening theory usually lasts about 10-15 moves. Then there are still 20-30 or more moves left where players use their creativity to play good chess and win.

This was exactly the same 50 years ago. It was roughly the same 100 years ago, or even 150 years ago. The first huge opening theory book, the legendary "Bilguer" was published in 1843.

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Who are you talking to?

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#1 here’s my strategy; dont memorize openings, make good moves and cook your opponents
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#10, I’ve done worse, for sure. My hands are fine, but I’ve done worse.
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mypawnisapassedpawn wrote:
These people be using gemini/chatgpt to be a “philosopher” but here i am. Imma get ready to tire my hands.
Chess, an artistic game that supposedly never loses its touch. But now, in online chess, some people are using engines and get away with it. Though some people get banned, the rest linger in the shadows. Right now, chess is corrupting, especially online chess. At least, that’s what chess haters and checkers glazers say. Chess is really evolving, and people are getting smarter because of it! And it really shows how kingdoms go to war. It’s beautiful, really.
See how biased this is? This isn’t AI, it’s the art of humans. mypawnisapassedpawn (Pikachu) out! Peace!

You used AI. You just avoided some words and emoticons.

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magipi wrote:

What is the point in responding to a guy who is too lazy to write his own post?

The opening post is 100% AI slop. Complete nonsense from the first word to the last. It belongs in the trash.

I didn't use AI completely, I got an idea and wrote some sentences. I only used AI to add emoticons, correct grammatical mistakes, etc. Now if you want one created by myself, click here: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/do-you-think-openings-really-matter-that-much

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IshaanJRagesh wrote:
mypawnisapassedpawn wrote:
These people be using gemini/chatgpt to be a “philosopher” but here i am. Imma get ready to tire my hands.
Chess, an artistic game that supposedly never loses its touch. But now, in online chess, some people are using engines and get away with it. Though some people get banned, the rest linger in the shadows. Right now, chess is corrupting, especially online chess. At least, that’s what chess haters and checkers glazers say. Chess is really evolving, and people are getting smarter because of it! And it really shows how kingdoms go to war. It’s beautiful, really.
See how biased this is? This isn’t AI, it’s the art of humans. mypawnisapassedpawn (Pikachu) out! Peace!

You used AI. You just avoided some words and emoticons.

And what’s the point literally responding to someone who actually wrote with their own effort with some dumb response; meanwhile you didn’t even use your effort. 100% AI slop on your behalf. And “you just avoided some words and emotions” LITERALLY AN AI DOES NOT DO THAT. Your proof isn’t valid that you didn’t use AI. It’s better to just not respond at all, AND WRITE IN YOUR OWN WORDS FOR REAL.