Is Chess.com Hated Like EA?

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Fisikhad
Honestly,I prefer Lichess over Chess.com in terms of puzzles and playing games.I only came here for 1 lesson per week feature
InsertInterestingNameHere

You’re acting like there’s something wrong with wanting to make money

InsertInterestingNameHere

Also lichess chews me out for inaccuracies and I cry afterward 

ShrekChess69420
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

You’re acting like there’s something wrong with wanting to make money

I'm not saying there's something wrong with wanting to make money. All I'm saying is if lichess created an entirely free platform, you would think chess.com could do it too. surprise.png 

sndeww
ShrekChess69420 wrote:

CC is like: Here is analysis. If you want another one, pay $100.

Lichess is like: Here is analysis. It's free.

CC is like: Here is puzzles and puzzle rush. If you want more, pay $100.

Lichess is like: Here are puzzles and puzzle rush. They're free. 

CC is like: Here are ads. If you want to remove ads, pay $100. 

Lichess is like: There's no ads at all!

[advertisement]

Analysis on chess.com IS free.

To remove ads for a year, you only need to pay $25 (gold), or use an adblocker like me, which is FREE!

To do unlimited puzzles and puzzle rush for a year, you only need to pay $50 (plat) 

What diamond has that the rest don't:

-Game review explanations (From chess.com coach lol)

-insights

-all lessons+videos

You could have tried doing research first before posting.

sndeww
ShrekChess69420 wrote:
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

You’re acting like there’s something wrong with wanting to make money

I'm not saying there's something wrong with wanting to make money. All I'm saying is if lichess created an entirely free platform, you would think chess.com could do it too.  

ICC isn't free. You have to pay for having an account after a month. But I don't see anybody crying "unfair!" over on ICC.

Fire

I think chess.com is nice, but it is going in a downward spiral. 

chess NFTs? I mean NFTs will be a lot more popular in the future, but it is a stupid idea. 

Verified accounts? just another way to make money

Leagues? a way to make you play more

 

sndeww

verified accounts are actually a pretty interesting thing, it will be like twitter

ShrekChess69420
B1ZMARK wrote:
ShrekChess69420 wrote:

CC is like: Here is analysis. If you want another one, pay $100.

Lichess is like: Here is analysis. It's free.

CC is like: Here is puzzles and puzzle rush. If you want more, pay $100.

Lichess is like: Here are puzzles and puzzle rush. They're free. 

CC is like: Here are ads. If you want to remove ads, pay $100. 

Lichess is like: There's no ads at all!

[advertisement]

Analysis on chess.com IS free.

But Game Review isn't free like it is on lichess. And it's only Stockfish depth 10, so what are you supposed to do with it? Lichess has depth 18 Stockfish. 

To remove ads for a year, you only need to pay $25 (gold), or use an adblocker like me, which is FREE!

That is true. 

To do unlimited puzzles and puzzle rush for a year, you only need to pay $50 (plat) 

On lichess it is free.

What diamond has that the rest don't:

-Game review explanations (From chess.com coach lol)

Lichess has this for free.

-insights

Lichess analyzes your puzzle strengths and keeps many of your peformance stats. I also don't understand, what is the point of insights? It's quite obvious they are less of a way to effectively improve and more of a moneygrab feature that barely anyone will actually use. 

-all lessons+videos

Lichess has lessons and videos and studies. 

You could have tried doing research first before posting.

Already did happy.png

 

ShrekChess69420

nfts have no value.

llama51
ShrekChess69420 wrote:
Fire wrote:

I think chess.com is nice, but it is going in a downward spiral. 

chess NFTs? I mean NFTs will be a lot more popular in the future, but it is a stupid idea. 

Verified accounts? just another way to make money

Leagues? a way to make you play more

 

What is chess.com even doing at this point? Makes me laugh when I see all this verified account chess nft stuff. Imagine if you walk up to your friend and you're like, "bro, I just got the new CHESS NFT!!!

There are certain things you can do with money... like having speed chess championships for top players, or having pogchamps for people who don't know how the pieces move, and the new one for verified accounts...

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chesscom-world-championship-2022

With a $1,000,000 prize fund.

Martin_Stahl
goodapple25 wrote:

it is pay to win you can't lose daily games to time if you have premium

 

Yes you can. No-vacation games and running out of vacation are both possible.

sndeww
ShrekChess69420 wrote:

Analysis on chess.com IS free.

But Game Review isn't free like it is on lichess. And it's only Stockfish depth 10, so what are you supposed to do with it? Lichess has depth 18 Stockfish. 

 

To do unlimited puzzles and puzzle rush for a year, you only need to pay $50 (plat) 

On lichess it is free.

What diamond has that the rest don't:

-Game review explanations (From chess.com coach lol)

Lichess has this for free.

-insights

Lichess analyzes your puzzle strengths and keeps many of your peformance stats. I also don't understand, what is the point of insights? It's quite obvious they are less of a way to effectively improve and more of a moneygrab feature that barely anyone will actually use. 

-all lessons+videos

Lichess has lessons and videos and studies. 

You could have tried doing research first before posting.

Already did

my post was less about the pros that chess.com has, rather just targeted at where you said that "everything chess.com offers costs $100". Which is very misleading. $100 for a year amounts to about 27 cents per day. You would spend more money if you bought two packs of $1 skittles per week for a year than you would for a diamond membership.

The rest you say is true, though. 

However, considering the analysis part, the chess.com default engine is depth 20 if you let it sit there for a minute. It starts off a depth 14. Of course, lichess's engine is better, but for the majority of us, it doesn't really matter.

ShrekChess69420
B1ZMARK wrote:
ShrekChess69420 wrote:

Analysis on chess.com IS free.

But Game Review isn't free like it is on lichess. And it's only Stockfish depth 10, so what are you supposed to do with it? Lichess has depth 18 Stockfish. 

 

To do unlimited puzzles and puzzle rush for a year, you only need to pay $50 (plat) 

On lichess it is free.

What diamond has that the rest don't:

-Game review explanations (From chess.com coach lol)

Lichess has this for free.

-insights

Lichess analyzes your puzzle strengths and keeps many of your peformance stats. I also don't understand, what is the point of insights? It's quite obvious they are less of a way to effectively improve and more of a moneygrab feature that barely anyone will actually use. 

-all lessons+videos

Lichess has lessons and videos and studies. 

You could have tried doing research first before posting.

Already did

my post was less about the pros that chess.com has, rather just targeted at where you said that "everything chess.com offers costs $100". Which is very misleading. $100 for a year amounts to about 27 cents per day. You would spend more money if you bought two packs of $1 skittles per week for a year than you would for a diamond membership.

The rest you say is true, though. 

However, considering the analysis part, the chess.com default engine is depth 20 if you let it sit there for a minute. It starts off a depth 14. Of course, lichess's engine is better, but for the majority of us, it doesn't really matter.

Nothing beats free. 

InsertInterestingNameHere
ShrekChess69420 wrote:
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

You’re acting like there’s something wrong with wanting to make money

I'm not saying there's something wrong with wanting to make money. All I'm saying is if lichess created an entirely free platform, you would think chess.com could do it too.  

Yes...but chess.com’s goal is to make money. Lichess’s isn’t. And there isn’t inherently anything wrong with that.

 

I agree that chess.com is going in a downward spiral, though. Leagues aren’t all bad, and nfts are alright, but verified is stupid IMO.

Martin_Stahl
ShrekChess69420 wrote:
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

You’re acting like there’s something wrong with wanting to make money

I'm not saying there's something wrong with wanting to make money. All I'm saying is if lichess created an entirely free platform, you would think chess.com could do it too.  

 

Someone always pays. Chess.com early on went with a subscription model with a free ad-supprted option. Could they have done it differently? Probably? Would they be where there are today with the number of active members, features, and staff to support it all? Probably not.

llama51

I like the idea of verified.

I like it because there is enhanced cheat detection... and also people who pay money (and have less anonymity) are less likely to cheat. If that's the future of internet chess (and if it helps reduce cheating) I think it will be a big improvement.

ShrekChess69420
llama51 wrote:

I like the idea of verified.

I like it because there is enhanced cheat detection... and also people who pay money (and have less anonymity) are less likely to cheat. If that's the future of internet chess (and if it helps reduce cheating) I think it will be a big improvement.

They give you enhanced cheat detection? So it really is chesspaytowin.com now, isn't it?

ShrekChess69420
Martin_Stahl wrote:
ShrekChess69420 wrote:
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

You’re acting like there’s something wrong with wanting to make money

I'm not saying there's something wrong with wanting to make money. All I'm saying is if lichess created an entirely free platform, you would think chess.com could do it too.  

 

Someone always pays. Chess.com early on went with a subscription model with a free ad-supprted option. Could they have done it differently? Probably? Would they be where there are today with the number of active members, features, and staff to support it all? Probably not.

Good for them. I would still go lichess all day!!!

sndeww
ShrekChess69420 wrote:

Nothing beats free. 

Well you could have said that, instead of typing misleading information.