is chess similar to pokers?

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wondering. Will chess skill help you as a new poker player or vice versa?

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No. Unfortunately, the game of chess is differently played on a whole new level. Poker involves bluffing in expressions and involves little strategy and more on luck. On the other hand, chess is a strategically played game and requires planning and "battle strategy." It might help just a little, but not enough to help as much as I believe you are trying to find.

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xZippyx wrote:

No. Unfortunately, the game of chess is differently played on a whole new level. Poker involves bluffing in expressions and involves little strategy and more on luck. On the other hand, chess is a strategically played game and requires planning and "battle strategy." It might help just a little, but not enough to help as much as I believe you are trying to find.

poker involves little strategy? I suggrse find the nearest casino and test out theory.

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Poker involves a lot of strategy. The only people who think poker is based mostly on luck are people who don't play poker.

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There's a lot more skill in poker, especially Texas Hold'em. Chess tournaments are a crapshoot compared to poker tournaments.

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Poker is a game of skill. Online poker is absolutely rigged. Anyone who says otherwise is sponsored by the company, or waiting to be fleeced....

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limber_up wrote:

There's a lot more skill in poker, especially Texas Hold'em. Chess tournaments are a crapshoot compared to poker tournaments.

The fact that there is chance involved, be it dice or the luck of the draw when it comes to cards means it is a very different kind of game to chess. For those of you interested I was reading the book "Chess, the Immortal Game" which deals with the history of chess and I believe it was somewhere in the 1500's where where people wanted to include dice in chess a variation on the original where each piece had a number assigned to it on the dice and whichever number you rolled you then had to move that piece. Serious players quickly killed the idea as the notion of luck made chess little more than a game of chance. I am not saying poker does not require skill, but it lacks the mathematical depth needed to be anywhere near the complexity of the game of chess.

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you are so wrong- there is a lot of skill in poker and being good at math  help you with all the odds that you have to figure with your hand.

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I think "mathematical depth" refers to complexity in terms of number of possible combinations, not being good at math.  Although, perhaps this is also not quite true -- there are 52! (52-factorial) possible ways a deck of cards can be shuffled -- http://czep.net/weblog/52cards.html .  

 

Still, there is a difference where in chess you have complete control over what move you make whereas in poker all the strategy in the world sometimes can't necessarily give you a better hand than the other player.   But I would say the fact that certain players win more than others, and continue to do so, seems to prove that the chance involved only plays a small part in determining success.

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There's some skill in poker in the long run, but it's mostly about luck of what cards are dealt to you and to your opponents. There's not much you can do if you're consistently given worse hands than your opponents, and even bluffs will eventually be called.

Chess is basically a 100% strategical/tactical game where there's no luck involved.

So, no, they aren't simillar at all.

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Poker is a game of luck AND skill. Saying that a card game involves NO luck, is a straight out lie. Yes I have played poker, and I enjoyed playing it against my father. If a 1300 player, played against Magnus Carlsen he would have (in my opinion) 0% chance to win. However if I played against a master in poker, I would prob have a chance to win if I was really lucky. The difference is, that if I played 1000 games against a prof, I would win maybe 120-300 times. But everytime I won, I would prob only win a small amount, or he folded on flop (or whatever sake) without losing much. But I don't think Poker will increase, nor help you with chess. Now I am no poker/chess master, so just my guess.