Is chess still evolving?

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Tha_Snek

Are there new concepts and ideas being sprung up still? Is chess truly an infinite game? Is the game still changing?

fuzzbug

From Dvoretsky's Endgame manual:

"The theory of the endgame is constantly evolving, although not, of course, as fast as opening theory. New instructive endgames are constantly being played and then analyzed, commentaries on endgames played earlier are being corrected, in large measure thanks to rapidly improving computer programs."

Mark Dvoretsky

Openings which were considered passive or boring have been shown to have merit, or moves in established openings have been shown to not be as strong or weak as thought.

I imagine this will continue for some time...

mkkuhner

I was a serious tournament player in 1987 then took a 27-year break.  Chess has changed significantly in 27 years.

On the board:  a lot of openings believed to be bad in '87 are now popular.  The two I really notice are the Scandinavian (we regarded this as a beginner's mistake) and lines of the French with early Black 0-0 (we thought you'd get mated). In general, computers have taught us that many odd-looking positions are defensible.

A lot more is known about which endgames can be won and which cannot.  The very top players have become astoundingly general in their openings--there used to be more specialization, not players like Carlsen who play anything they please. 

Off the board:  No more adjournments.  Rapid and blitz thought of as legitimate sporting events rather than just something to pass the time between rounds.  Digital clocks with delay and increment.  World Champions from India and China!

And--as I'm finding to my cost--amateurs have access to so many more resources, and the overall standard of play seems to have gone up.  Especially among kids.  I am frequently chewed up by the little piranhas.

macer75
mkkuhner wrote:

I was a serious tournament player in 1987 then took a 27-year break.  Chess has changed significantly in 27 years.

On the board:  a lot of openings believed to be bad in '87 are now popular.  The two I really notice are the Scandinavian (we regarded this as a beginner's mistake) and lines of the French with early Black 0-0 (we thought you'd get mated). In general, computers have taught us that many odd-looking positions are defensible.

A lot more is known about which endgames can be won and which cannot.  The very top players have become astoundingly general in their openings--there used to be more specialization, not players like Carlsen who play anything they please. 

Off the board:  No more adjournments.  Rapid and blitz thought of as legitimate sporting events rather than just something to pass the time between rounds.  Digital clocks with delay and increment.  World Champions from India and China!

And--as I'm finding to my cost--amateurs have access to so many more resources, and the overall standard of play seems to have gone up.  Especially among kids.  I am frequently chewed up by the little piranhas.

You mean India and Norway? ;)

Tha_Snek

That's really good! Might spark my interest in chess again.

PlayChessPoorly
It would be pretty funny if 1) Nh3 ended up being the best opening move after hundreds of years of people saying its the worse.
gerberk

World Champions from India and China!

 

The next world champion will be a Chinese  Just a question of statistics,

macer75
gerberk wrote:

World Champions from India and China!

 

The next world champion will be a Chinese  Just a question of statistics,

Not necessarily the next, but I agree that as long as the world champion title in chess continues to exist for a while, there will be Chinese champion someday.

trysts

The Women's World Champion is from China;)

cats-not-knights
macer75 wrote:
mkkuhner wrote:

I was a serious tournament player in 1987 then took a 27-year break.  Chess has changed significantly in 27 years.

On the board:  a lot of openings believed to be bad in '87 are now popular.  The two I really notice are the Scandinavian (we regarded this as a beginner's mistake) and lines of the French with early Black 0-0 (we thought you'd get mated). In general, computers have taught us that many odd-looking positions are defensible.

A lot more is known about which endgames can be won and which cannot.  The very top players have become astoundingly general in their openings--there used to be more specialization, not players like Carlsen who play anything they please. 

Off the board:  No more adjournments.  Rapid and blitz thought of as legitimate sporting events rather than just something to pass the time between rounds.  Digital clocks with delay and increment.  World Champions from India and China!

And--as I'm finding to my cost--amateurs have access to so many more resources, and the overall standard of play seems to have gone up.  Especially among kids.  I am frequently chewed up by the little piranhas.

You mean India and Norway? ;)

Hou yifan, she's actually a world champion, she has won so much that you can call her boring...

JuergenWerner

Hou Yifan should challenge in men tournaments!!!

cats-not-knights
JuergenWerner wrote:

Hou Yifan should challenge in men tournaments!!!

doesn't she?  

Another-Life

She does challenge men and she is having a hard time, too.

fishyvishy

I'd like to take this opportunity to bring light to the situation there are no TCM categories for transgender people. I am sure people can beat the best of best men and women chess players if the FIDE would open up the transgender category -- that is definitely a giant leap for all of chess, and it will surely evolve.

JuergenWerner

Hou Yifan should join the Candidate's 2018 tournament

jsaepuru
ban_me_again wrote:

6 pieces endgames are not envolving anymore. They re solved. But for everything else, of course it is evolving.

Having a solution for a position if you can look up the tablebase - true for 6 piece AS WELL AS 7 piece endgames - does not mean it´s easy for a human to find a solution behind a board and forbidden to look up the solution from tablebase. So actual human memory application of the insights from tablebase is the important part.