psychic chess masters

I honestly play through pre-cognition, or what some call "seeing the future." I see the squares highlighted, squares that my opponent plans to move to next.

It helps in 1/0 bullet, though sometimes they change their mind and I premove based on their original thought, and that ends up causing me to blunder.

People are always changing their minds. It makes playing based on mind-reading quite frustrating.

The worst is when your opponent thinks of nothing during your turn. Then there are no moves for me to work with!

I was joking. :D

But yes, intuition does work like that. You're right!

Sounds like a cross between the TV detective series "Psych" and the move starring Russel Crowe "A Beautiful Mind"

And trailer parks!! Don't forget those!

They actually held a press conference that very same day, presenting debris of a crashed "weather baloon."

But yes, it didn't recieve major interest until about 1978, 1980.

An old idea on rumors I found in a book once was that these stories are a function of the interest of a population and the lack of credible information available.  The idea being that if either of these is zero then rumors won't be generated.  I think this model fits well here.  People are generally interested in aliens and have no credible information, so we should expect to find stories like these.

Oh I know... they're not made up.  They're real.  Really real.  And there's evidence- er- there was evidence.  It's classified and disappeared now though, so don't ask me to produce any.

Exactly, this is why I find conspiracy theories hard to believe, it's far more likely that people are just plain stupid.

Yes, to be quite honest they just interrogate people for the fun of it.

Okay... there is a whole 'nother level of discussion going on in this topic that I am unfit to approach and i'll admit i have not read all 30 pages of this thread... But! it is the original topic that i find fascinating and want to contribute to.

Here is my take on psychic chess masters:

Aren't blindfold simuls amazing?! I still benefit from flipping the board to find the best move for black when i analyze. But i know, believe, and understand that other players have the ability to imagine multiple boards as restless 33 piece mechanisms that can be manipulated from any and every angle. This is an ability they have developed that only a handful of people on the planet can lay claim to!

Now take the blindfold off and take into consideration the extraordinary perceptive skills of kinesics (the interpretation of body language) and empathy that all of God's living creatures possess. Now you tell me: is a visibly distressed opponent more likely to blunder? Hey look at that you predicted the future! To a high degree of probability even! Now do you think confidence or discouragement can affect a player's performance? Wow! Now you are believing faith can make a difference in the world... or at least a chess game.

Ok now here is where i'm going to lose some of you; If you were completely devoid of all senses and left alone for several hours do you believe you could sense, maybe not immediately but eventually that you were no longer alone? Now wait before you answer have you ever noticed that women ALWAYS know when you're staring at their assets?

A long time ago when I was 13 I was lent a book, i'm sorry i can't quote it or even know its author, and i really wouldn't be interested in finding it again but it was lent to me by an older friend who was into this sort of stuff and it said that psychic or mental energy flowed from our eyes and fingertips towards whatever we focused on and it can be perceived by others (same principle behind girls knowing when you are checking them out) the trick (the book said) was to develop our mental output to misdirect the minds focus upon the subjects 5 senses. And the way to accomplish this was to "Imagine" the different colored ball shaped chakras (its a buddhist thing) located within different parts of your body rising to your head, and gathering all 7 without losing the visualization of the ones you have already gathered. Now add to these thoughts, the theories of positive and negative emotional attachment. Which basically states the more your emotions uncontrollably focus on a negative or positive outcome the more you create the environment of your emotions focus; even if it is not your desired outcome (the chinese call it positive, negative, and neutral chi).

So the question becomes: "Do i believe people who can imagine hundreds of pieces, on hundreds of squares, making hundreds of moves, simultaneously, are engaged in a partially unseen, partially seen, partially sensed, experientially determined, struggle of invisible mental energies?"

Yes! Yes i do. I believe that even in the lamest sense, the game of chess itself is a practice of "experiential sensory perception" Non Chess players or beginners cannot feel a surge of excitement when they see a mate in 6. It can be learned but it cannot be felt until it is. There are chess books written solely upon the subject of "Intuition" which could be described as the virtue of experiential sensory perception.

But on top of that i also believe that all of the chess greats either naturally or through training utilize their extraordinarily developed visualization skills to keep their faith strong in their ability, and thus maintain or direct their chi to assert their will over their opponent.

Thats why Bobby Fisher’s antics at the 1972 "match of the century" (complaints about the lights and the cameras) were less about his eccentricity and more about maintaining his faith in himself that if there were absolutely no distractions he would be the best in the world.

Thats why Magnus Carlson always looks like he is not paying attention when its not his move, and is hardly ever emotional about his performance, he is very aloof, and thus maintaining a neutral or positive chi

And how Vishy Anand survives this mate in one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5YKoL4QKic, in the 1994 blitz championship, he burns a hole staring into his own pieces, misdirecting the mind of the visibly distressed Ivanchuk and thus wins the game.

My conclusion: The more we work to master chess the more ESP proficient we become.

Interestingly the act of recalling something supposedly physically alters the memory in the brain.

Wow, I'd forgotten... as a kid I tried to create false memories by creating a plausible event and rehearsing it as if it had happened over and over.  I later remembered two of them were false, and the third took many years to realize it was actually implausible.  lol, I was an interesting kid IMO

Imagine this is a fact and consider every day events.  School, church, work... I think you now realize this is 100% silliness.

This one takes a bit more imagination.  Try to predict, psychologically speaking, where a person would imagine their "spirit" or "energy" dwells or is projected from.  My guesses would include the face, eyes, mouth, ears, tip of the tongue, head, chest, wrists, and fingertips.  Each deal with how we primarily interact with our environment as well as sensitive areas of the body or places where we experience sensations when we're emotional.

It's honestly no surprise to me that this half remembered book on some non-specific metaphysical essence revolves around these predictable body parts.  In fact if you told me our spirit energy resided in our calves I'd be more inclined to believe you heh.

waffllemaster ... why yes i have been caught checking out women at school, church, and work and yeah i did feel silly... is that what you meant? And "predicting psychologically" is that the same as logically concluding? Yeah i know its cool when stuff proposed to make sense, makes sense... spirit energy in calfs... i think thats Hindu ;) And your right its a half remembered book from my childhood but you can wiki chakras and see its a cornerstone of buddhist meditation. My point wasnt the emphasis on the book (i only read a few pages before i chalked it up to hogwash) but the fact that chess requires much more visualization then meditative exercises so the arguement could be made it results in a much stronger projected focus.

This is a discussion about psychic phenomena; aspects of the mind.  The only 'assets' you should be considering 'staring' at are a woman's frontal lobes with your third eye.  Of course she'll know. The 3rd eye eminates a very subtle radiation in the color vibration of indigo that women can sense immediately.

well there you go the reflectivist has shown why women must remain in thier own chess league... if they played with the boys we could blind them with our indigo sparkles ;)

I default to your understanding of all things chakra oriented and respect your convictions

for the record im not a creeper... i was trying to overexagerate a point universally understood

"why yes i have been caught checking out women at school, church, and work and yeah i did feel silly... is that what you meant?

Haha.  Confirmation bias :p  No, I didn't ask you to search your memory for times when this was personally true (as you ask the reader to do).  I asked you to use your imagination to imagine impersonal situations where this is universally true.  I had large groups of people in mind.  Then predict the social norms and common knowledge that would necessarily arise and compare them to reality to see if it fits.

"Yeah i know its cool when stuff proposed to make sense, makes sense"

That's just it... to me it's the opposite of making sense.  My point was imagine towards which body parts a person would be bias when fabricating their own ideas about these energies.  Of course you could say they focus on these areas even when fabricating because these areas are actually involved, and that's certainly an argument that can be made.  I'm saying there exists an alternative explanation.  A purely psychological explanation with no mystical energy necessary.  Then let occam's razor do the sorting.

Of course that's just my way of reasoning through things.  You're free to have your own ideas about all that stuff.

That all said, you read what I said and focus on the chakra.

I read what I said and giggle at the double entendre 'frontal lobes'.

Different strokes for different folks.  

This 2nd complimentary double entendre was unintentional.

waffllemaster i like the cut of your jib, can see you know what your talking about, and appreciate your point of view.

PS i too had some imagined stories that i later remembered were complete fiction... as children reality was so much more subjective right?

You dirty high brow dog! it went over my head the 1st and the second time, but i still laughed out loud ; Good one.

Yeah.  The world is different when you're a kid.  If only we kept getting smarter.  Too bad those dramatic changes stop as you enter adulthood.

For some people anyway.