is London the best chess opening?

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ToastBread_1

1.d4 openings are usually closed games. 1.e4 is for open games. If you want to attack you can use 1.e4 more and if u are a defensive player u can play 1.d4 for example. So both openings has it's ups and downs.

ashvasan
It really depends on the type of player
ToastBread_1

Yeah but according to Stockfish, Ruy Lopéz Opening: Berlin Defense, Rio Gambit Accepted is the best opening I think.

Ziryab

The first game in Irving Chernev, The 1000 Best Short Games of Chess

And a game I played on this site

MaetsNori

Very pretty mate.

Chernev was a wonderful chess writer. His "Logical Chess: Move by Move" helped my understanding tremendously when I was a newer player. Reading it felt like magic.

Fine's "Ideas Behind the Openings" also had a similar effect on me, once I reached an intermediate level ... though not quite as magical.

EasyJayChess

The advice that is often given for new chess players is to play openings that align with your personality and preferred style of play. In my limited experience, e4 openings are great for beginners who enjoy the chaos of open positions and random tactical shots. I started with e4 and found that at the very beginner level most players ignore "opening principles" and simply attack out of the gate and chaos ensues. As a rather methodical person, I didn't enjoy it and almost quit chess. Fortunately, I read Levi Rozman's book and gave the d4 London System a try. I found it to be a more closed game that mitigates the chaos and gave me the opportunity to apply what I was learning in the chess.com Lesson Library. Once I feel comfortable with the basics of chess, I expect that I will go back to an e4 opening.

JHACKIL

I love the London System. The opening can teach solidity in pawn structures, attacking chess (opposite castling is a theme), and sufficient control of the center with pieces and pawns. I believe the London System is a great opening, and I continue to play it in rapid in almost each game as white. (I do not play 1. e4 anymore due to Sicilian Defense, but I might learn Alapin or Open Sicilian to counter it. There are also other great responses, such as the Caro-Kann Defense, my favorite response to 1. e4. Eventually, I will integrate 1. e4 into my openings once I learn the theory to each of these counters. 1. d4, however, really only has Indian Game and Queen's Pawn as its main counters. Also Horwitz, Dutch Defense. I would like to learn the Dutch. I really like the Italian Game)

Ziryab
MaetsNori wrote:

Very pretty mate.

Chernev was a wonderful chess writer. His "Logical Chess: Move by Move" helped my understanding tremendously when I was a newer player. Reading it felt like magic.

Fine's "Ideas Behind the Openings" also had a similar effect on me, once I reached an intermediate level ... though not quite as magical.

The first book that I remember reading was 1000 Best Short Games of Chess. I had checked out several from the library—likely all were by either Reinfeld or Chernev—but the games in 1000 Best Short Games of Chess taught me some basic opening principles and tactics. I was soon beating everyone that I knew. It was the mid-1970s and I was a teenager.

A couple of years later, I was the second best player in my high school. The best was fond of the Pirc. He loaned me his copy of Chess Openings: Theory and Practice. After studying the Four Pawns Attack, I beat his Pirc for the first time. He was USCF B Class. I didn’t play in a rated event until I was 35.

Chessflyfisher

No.

RussBell

Introduction To The London System & Jobava London System

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/the-london-system

check what GM Hikaru Nakamura and IM Levy Rozman have to say agout the London System here...

GM Nakumura and IM Levy Rozman (aka 'GothamChess') say London System "Legendary"...(@30:30 of video)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHsb7-LbC34

Magnus Carlsen gives a London System lesson! - Bronto Chess... Magnus plays an aggressive kingside attack - pawn storm - in the London...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNEVfwmRczw

Ziryab

@RussBell

Have you watched all those videos and read all those books?

RussBell

@Ziryab -

Why would you care about what I do.

I don't care what you do.

Ziryab
RussBell wrote:

@Ziryab -

Why do you care about what I do.

I don't care what you do.

You spam forums with long lists, which I read. I think it is relevant to inquire whether you put any effort into compiling the lists.

I’m curious why you don’t think that Cyrus Lakdawala’s book on the London was worthy of mention.

RussBell

I'm not concerned about what you think about what I do. I'm not answerable to you. Go about your business your way. I'll do the same.

Ziryab

I found Simon Williams’ videos on the London useful. I found Eric Rosen’s speedrun useful where he battled against the London.

The only value I found in Levy Rozman’s advocacy of the London is that lots of ill-prepared players opted to use it against me.

I haven’t watched any other videos on the topic.

I have Lakdawala’s book and The Agile London. @RussBell did well to recommend The Agile London. I don’t know about the rest of his excessively long list.

Ziryab
RussBell wrote:

I'm not concerned about what you think about what I do. I'm not answerable to you. Go about your business your way. I'll do the same.

If you don’t want to discuss your recommendations, don’t offer them. Otherwise, you are simply spamming the forum to promote your blog.

Ziryab

A friend shared this quote with me. It seems relevant.

“…You should play the simpler and more adventurous openings, from which you will learn how to use the pieces. Much later on you can go on to the more difficult openings - if you play them now you won't understand what you are doing ... Play the openings beginning [1 e4 e5]. ... if you haven't learnt how to play the open game you won't be able to use positional advantage even if you are able to get it. …” - C. H. O'D. Alexander and T. J. Beach (1963)
ABC_of_EVERYTHING

Instead of London, try this

RussBell
Ziryab wrote:
RussBell wrote:

I'm not concerned about what you think about what I do. I'm not answerable to you. Go about your business your way. I'll do the same.

If you don’t want to discuss your recommendations, don’t offer them. Otherwise, you are simply spamming the forum to promote your blog.

Reported for harassment.

IpswichMatt
RussBell wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
RussBell wrote:

I'm not concerned about what you think about what I do. I'm not answerable to you. Go about your business your way. I'll do the same.

If you don’t want to discuss your recommendations, don’t offer them. Otherwise, you are simply spamming the forum to promote your blog.

Reported for harassment.

Really? Harassment?! I thought Ziryab was remarkably polite.