Is my jump in rating unprecedented?

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woton
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:
 

You were talking about economics before. Some law of diminishing returns, that's what I was referring to.

The ldr is applicable to chess.  Ask any high-rated player if it didn't take more effort to improve as their rating increased.  That's what the ldr says will happen.  As I said before, the ldr is applicable to things other than economics.

Mahmud90001

The day I first joined..after one or two games, my ratings started to sky rocket dramatically. I kinda got scared tbh...

woton
woton wrote:
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:
 

You were talking about economics before. Some law of diminishing returns, that's what I was referring to.

The ldr is applicable to chess.  Ask any high-rated player if it didn't take more effort to improve as their rating increased.  That's what the ldr says will happen.  As I said before, the ldr is applicable to things other than economics.

Being a US citizen, I believe in presenting "alternative facts."

 

Rat1960

Have you played Chess Titans on Level 10 ?

It is useful in as much as to have a record of the game you have to write the score down yourself. 
That is required for most Over The Board games at clubs and tournaments.

VladimirHerceg91
Rat1960 wrote:

Have you played Chess Titans on Level 10 ?

It is useful in as much as to have a record of the game you have to write the score down yourself. 
That is required for most Over The Board games at clubs and tournaments.

I have a Macbook. 

x_tactician_x

VladimirHerceg91 je napisao:

Recently, I  have experienced an incredible jump in my blitz rating.

I was rated 782 on December 5th, and today I am rated 1075. That is a rating increase of 293 points. 

I was so impressed with this achievement that I began to analyze how impressive it is. I was of the opinion that my increase from 782 to 1075 (293 points), is equally as impressive as a GM going from 2500 to 2793 (Also 293 points). But then I got thinking, my rating jump is arguably more impressive since I am a beginner. It is easier for a GM to improve because he is already an expert. 

 

How impressive is my rating jump in reality, and how does it compare to a GM jumping in rating by the same amount? 

 

Thank you for your input in advance. 

 

Iskreno, to nije neko poboljšanje. Kad jednom pređeš prag od 1600, onda će ti biti sve teže i teže. Znam po sebi. Da se razumijemo, tek sam počeo igrati na ovom novom nalogu, stari sam zatvorio. Na starom nalogu, moj "correspondence chess rating" je bio 1900+, "standard chess rating" - 1800+ i "blitz chess rating"- 1700+! A do 1600 rejtinga ćeš vrlo teško doći sa obzirom na tvoj sadašnji kvalitet igre. Nisam rekao da nećeš, ali vjeruj mi, trebaće ti mjeseci. Da bi dostigao 2000 rejting u šahu, trebaće ti par godina uz srednji napor u studiranju. A samo rijetki dostignu level šahovskog majstora. Zato smanji ego i zaboravi brzo poboljšanje u šahu i "prioni" na studiranje , ako baš želiš biti dobar u jednom dužem vremenskom periodu, jer šah je teška igra. Srdačni pozdrav.

kingjames187

what it do

MitSud
OP rating is exponetional although it is a great achievement to gain so many rating points it is much harder to gain rating points the further up you go, I experienced a jump like that myself a while back, for Mangnus Carlsen to get 293 points in the time you had to gain your 293 points would be like you going from 800 rating points to 2200 rating points in the time, that's going from from complete noob to master level play.
MitSud
Vlad your improvement is good and well deserved but it's nothing special i spent a few days teaching my sister to play chess and taught her the measly amount of knowledge that I have and she can play at a 1000 Chess.com rating level easily (she is 9). So within a week basically with me as her coach she managed a 1000 point rise in rating and performance level, the amount she learnt would be the same as Magnus Carlsen gaining 2 to 3 rating points, so while your rise in rating was good don't get big-headed about it, it gets much harder to increase in rating points as you go along.
MitSud
And No your jump in rating is not unprecedented a month ago I had another account rated 800 I deleted it because my Glicko RD meant it took forever to get rating points and now I play at a 1200 level where I can sometimes beat 1300 and 1400 players.
MitSud
Vlad you keep telling other people that their comments are boastful when they compare their achievements to yours even though some of your comments seem boastful and self-centred. This is my personal opinion, no offence intended.
MitSud
Comparing your jump in rating to a jump in a Gm's jump of the same amount is a terrible comparison. The amount you need to learn to gain 300 points when you are below 1200 is tiny, the amount you need to learn at a 2600+ to gain 300 rating points is enormous, take Komodo for instance it is rated 3300 and can calculate 50 moves ahead for every possible moves within the space of a few minutes, for Magnus Carlsen to improve his rating by the amount you did he would need to be able to calculate 30-40 moves ahead in all the relevant and possible lines, to do that in less than a month is almost impossible unless you are an alien from a superior race.🙂😎
runawayMule

Congrats Vlad!

VladimirHerceg91
Morphysrevenges wrote:
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:

Recently, I  have experienced an incredible jump in my blitz rating.

I was rated 782 on December 5th, and today I am rated 1075. That is a rating increase of 293 points. 

I was so impressed with this achievement that I began to analyze how impressive it is. I was of the opinion that my increase from 782 to 1075 (293 points), is equally as impressive as a GM going from 2500 to 2793 (Also 293 points). But then I got thinking, my rating jump is arguably more impressive since I am a beginner. It is easier for a GM to improve because he is already an expert. 

 

How impressive is my rating jump in reality, and how does it compare to a GM jumping in rating by the same amount? 

 

Thank you for your input in advance. 

 

You could not be more mistaken if you wanted to be.

 

a 293 point rating gain for someone at the rating level of 2500 is extremely more difficult - they are already in the very tail of the bell curve. you are below the average and a 293 rating point increase is waaaaaay easier. you are only moving from way below average to below average. That is an easy feat comparatively speaking. 

 

At the highest levels even gaining 20 rating points is a huge deal. 

I would argue that I could be far more mistaken. And exactly you said that a 20 point increase is a huge increase. I don't understand how 293 points is not more impressive in your opinion. I sense a bit of contradiction. 

VladimirHerceg91
MitSud wrote:
Vlad your improvement is good and well deserved but it's nothing special i spent a few days teaching my sister to play chess and taught her the measly amount of knowledge that I have and she can play at a 1000 Chess.com rating level easily (she is 9). So within a week basically with me as her coach she managed a 1000 point rise in rating and performance level, the amount she learnt would be the same as Magnus Carlsen gaining 2 to 3 rating points, so while your rise in rating was good don't get big-headed about it, it gets much harder to increase in rating points as you go along.

I doubt that your 9 year old sister could compete with the likes of me after only a week of practice. You do understand that a rating of 1000 is pretty much an advanced player. If she is at that level after a week of practice maybe she should consider becoming the next world champion. By the way, how did you manage to force her into chess? I posted a thread about how difficult it was for me to force my nephew to play chess, very insightful. Anyway thanks for your reply. 

maggotmania
ilikewindmills wrote:
I've done better

bro calm down he is happy ok no need to burst his bubble

Dodger111

People ALWAYS hit a high water mark then fall back down to a more realistic rating, it's possible you've done so and are really an 800 player. 

Which would be sad. 

IpswichMatt
MitSud wrote:
Vlad you keep telling other people that their comments are boastful when they compare their achievements to yours even though some of your comments seem boastful and self-centred. This is my personal opinion, no offence intended.

The OP created this thread to discuss his own accomplishments. Anyone else talking about their own accomplishments is going off-topic and therefore must only be doing so in order to boast. So there is no contradiction here.

Jimmykay
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:

..You do understand that a rating of 1000 is pretty much an advanced player. If she is at that level after a week of practice maybe she should consider becoming the next world champion...

 

This should breathe some new life into this thread...

chesster3145

Try double that.