is sandbagging illegal?

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DootDootDoot123

it's very annoying watching them 1200s farm points in leagues. it's inherently unfair to higher rateds like me. so. my plan is to sandbag my blitz and grind all the way up to legends. is this gonna get me banned by Chess.com?

llama47
StemSamuelHe wrote:

it's very annoying watching them 1200s farm points in leagues. it's inherently unfair to higher rateds like me. so. my plan is to sandbag my blitz and grind all the way up to legends. is this gonna get me banned by Chess.com?

Yes, that would get you banned.

DootDootDoot123

oh, poo.

NikkiLikeChikki

In the Fair Play Policy, chesscom states:

 

  • Do not artificially manipulate ratings, matches, or game outcomes

 

FarewellToKings2112

I agree, this is kinda broken

technical_knockout

yes.  read the site rules.

TomoMod

Yes, sandbagging is against our fair play policy.

 

https://support.chess.com/article/208-what-is-a-sandbagger

https://www.chess.com/legal/fair-play

 

If you encounter a sandbagger, please report them so our support team can look further into it

CouldntFindAGoodUsername

Sandbagging is illegal. No doubts. One who fails to obey the policy, their account would be closed for not obeying fair play.

Mousetorturer

Chess.com will and can not detect all forms of cheating. Account sharing within the chess playing family for example is not something you can easily detect.

An expert player would have to analyse the games and the online times and I don't think this will happen. Sandbagging is not the most effective way to cheat here. It always takes some time to lose the games on purpose.

CrusaderKing1
StemSamuelHe wrote:

it's very annoying watching them 1200s farm points in leagues. it's inherently unfair to higher rateds like me. so. my plan is to sandbag my blitz and grind all the way up to legends. is this gonna get me banned by Chess.com?

People are playing against other people equal to them. I could say 800's are farming all the points, but in reality they are having just as much trouble as anyone else, as all players are winning roughly 50% of the time anyway....a pretty easy concept....

Mousetorturer

The probabiliy to win or lose 20 games in a row against players with roughly equal abilities is 

1 : 1 048 576, or 0.00009% for each 20 games.

So most players should never see that in their lifetimes...

(My personal record is 29 wins in a row in rapid but opponents average was about 500 points lower.)

UpcommingGM

Sure, sandbagging is cheating. Rating manipulation and it will most likely get you banned.

Captain_Thorne_of_the_PNW
Not-shy-not-wild wrote:

Hm... I have abandoned leagues mentally. It is clearly advantageuos for studends, seniors & the unemployed. Sandbagging is of course illegal. But you may try to resign games early, when you have lost a piece or so. Maybe you win more in the long run compared to the quite rare turnarounds you have.

Don't think I can do that makes too much sensehappy.png

TimothyScottPuente

I find personality defects in individuals who have unabated desires for micro-management. These sort of people oftentimes cause problems that may only seem apropos to an inherently, seemingly infinite number of juvenile like traumas produced by a milieu of jealously. There is however, one way I have seen that allows these busybodies to hide, and like a dog that returns to his vomit, blame those they cheat. They stop their own clock run the person's clock they accusing of sandbagging, when it's the so-called sandbaggers move, thus controlling the outcome, offering conveyance of an illusion their opponents has lost on purpose.

dashygalaxy
Unfortunately sandbagging is illegal
Ilampozhil25
CatNation_NM wrote:

how is sandbagging cheating? your just lowering your rating to face easter opponents you its not like your using a engine with sandbagging

yeah thats why

a) your cheating them of a good game by being much better, and your rating wouldnt reflect that

b) your cheating the system by qualifying for lower rating tournaments and dominating them, having easy wins for unfair leagues farming (faster to get points with a 90% win rate than 50%)

but just being 1st in a rating based paired arena (with low rating) isnt suspicious because low rated games end faster and are more decisive so the lucky few will go insane streaks

toxic_internet

A lot of things termed "cheating" would be better described simply as dirty play, which is rampant, now.

maths_fan

Yes it is against the rules, but I find it dumb that your rating goes down when you lose. Just think abt it. You don't neccesarily get worse at chess when you lose

SyselCz1234

Bruh

CrusaderKing1

Yes it's illegal. Punishable by 9 months in prison.