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Is there a way a Novice can sucker punch a master and win one game?

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KyleMayhugh
Mar 18, 2011
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RathHood wrote:

I just watched the Fishing Pole:First Blood part1 video on youtube and I think it could be excellent tactic against average level master in simul. 1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.Bb5,Ng4!? 4.h3, h5! here is the link one more time... very interesting indeed.

There's no way that a master won't be familiar with the fishing pole trap in the Ruy Lopez. And even if that part of their mind was magically wiped, they'd see the tactic pretty quickly.

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RathHood
Mar 18, 2011
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KyleMayhugh wrote:
RathHood wrote:

I just watched the Fishing Pole:First Blood part1 video on youtube and I think it could be excellent tactic against average level master in simul. 1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.Bb5,Ng4!? 4.h3, h5! here is the link one more time... very interesting indeed.

There's no way that a master won't be familiar with the fishing pole trap in the Ruy Lopez. And even if that part of their mind was magically wiped, they'd see the tactic pretty quickly.

No hurt to try atleast Smile.

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Elubas
Mar 18, 2011
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#43

Just try your best; try to learn from it. Given your rating, winning or drawing would be quite the miracle, but personally I always get satisfaction just when I play my best, as that means your opponent has to beat you with ideas or tactical firepower that is beyond you; that always makes for a good learning experience.

I think the trap we fall into in these kinds of psychological situations with a big rating differential is that we feel we need to alter our play, but by not playing your game moves won't flow naturally -- remember that your rating is based on how you play; if you don't play your game, you don't play your rating.

Do you really think you'll do better trying to trick someone like a master with an elementary trap that is poor if not fallen for as opposed to actually making him outplay you under simul time constraints?

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RathHood
Mar 18, 2011
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#44
uhohspaghettio wrote:

Obviously the grandmaster wouldn't just give a piece away, so it had to be a trap-the grandmaster was clearly saying, "You'll die a horrible death if you dare touch that piece." Eventually the 2100 player thought he saw something that might be dangerous and didn't accept the gift. The grandmaster won easily.

After the game the grandmaster asked, "Why didn't you take my piece? I would have resigned if you did!"

Don't fall into this trap as described in Reassess your Chess.

There's a lot of truth in it. I noticed when I play titled or very high ranked players on this site I tend to play below my normal level just because I'm itimidated from the start and so I make mistakes I normally wouldn't do.

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KyleMayhugh
Mar 18, 2011
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#45
RathHood wrote:
uhohspaghettio wrote:

Obviously the grandmaster wouldn't just give a piece away, so it had to be a trap-the grandmaster was clearly saying, "You'll die a horrible death if you dare touch that piece." Eventually the 2100 player thought he saw something that might be dangerous and didn't accept the gift. The grandmaster won easily.

After the game the grandmaster asked, "Why didn't you take my piece? I would have resigned if you did!"

Don't fall into this trap as described in Reassess your Chess.

There's a lot of truth in it. I noticed when I play titled or very high ranked players on this site I tend to play below my normal level just because I'm itimidated from the start and so I make mistakes I normally wouldn't do.

The corollary to that is if a titled player every offers you a draw in an unclear middlegame (presuming you are not near his status), look at the position *very* carefully, because he probably just noticed a blunder.

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RathHood
Mar 18, 2011
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#46
KyleMayhugh wrote:
RathHood wrote:
uhohspaghettio wrote:

Obviously the grandmaster wouldn't just give a piece away, so it had to be a trap-the grandmaster was clearly saying, "You'll die a horrible death if you dare touch that piece." Eventually the 2100 player thought he saw something that might be dangerous and didn't accept the gift. The grandmaster won easily.

After the game the grandmaster asked, "Why didn't you take my piece? I would have resigned if you did!"

Don't fall into this trap as described in Reassess your Chess.

There's a lot of truth in it. I noticed when I play titled or very high ranked players on this site I tend to play below my normal level just because I'm itimidated from the start and so I make mistakes I normally wouldn't do.

The corollary to that is if a titled player every offers you a draw in an unclear middlegame (presuming you are not near his status), look at the position *very* carefully, because he probably just noticed a blunder.

So far the games I played on this site against titled/high ranked(+2500) players were bullet games - nobody offers a draw in bullet - not enough time to hit 'offer draw' button Laughing.

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Elubas
Mar 19, 2011
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#47

I think as you get more experienced as a player, you start to trust in yourself more, even if your opponent is very high rated -- I always play the board, and though if I'm playing a high rated player I will be more wary of unexpected traps, if I can't see a clear way a certain move is refuted I won't not play it. The key is to ignore the temptation and always play your rating -- whether you're against a very easy, equal, or grandmaster opponent. If you're up against a GM, all "strategies" should lose miserably, but theoretically you should do best, and learn the most from playing your game! If you force him to beat your game (which he will Tongue out), you will learn what you were doing wrong. Your game and its effectiveness is what your rating represents, not you setting beginner traps for your non-beginner opponent.