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gbidari

You should get a medal.  What you did was not only not rude it was highly commendable. You took the time to teach your opponent a valuable lesson and on behalf of those fed up with opponents like yours, I salute you.

bigpoison

Not a bit rude, nor unsportsmanlike.

Rob_Soul
gbidari wrote:

You should get a medal.  What you did was not only not rude it was highly commendable. You took the time to teach your opponent a valuable lesson and...


What valuable lesson was taught?!?

Dakota_Clark
Rob_Soul wrote:
gbidari wrote:

You should get a medal.  What you did was not only not rude it was highly commendable. You took the time to teach your opponent a valuable lesson and...


What valuable lesson was taught?!?


 Probably to effin' resign when loss is inevitable.

gbidari

That's right! It's also a lesson in humility and karma all rolled into one. I love it.

Timotheous

All of these comments remind me of one of Shakespeare's plays " Much ado about nothing."

tones

Did you really need six queens to prevent any trouble?

gbidari
tones wrote:

Did you really need six queens to prevent any trouble?


It's not about preventing trouble. It's about giving the opponent a taste of his own medicine in a most fitting way. There is more dignity in a chicken that runs around bleeding with its head cut off than there is with the poor sap who sits there mindlessly shuffling his king back and forth like some oxygen deprived Neanderthal.

hazenfelts

This is part of the, 'is it rude not to resign when in a clearly lost position' argument.  If a person refuses to resign and carries on playing in a lost position (which is well within their right and they are not breaking any rules by doing so) then they must be willing to accept that their opponent is well within their rights by refusing to make a winning move.  If I was on the receiving end of this (although I think I would have resigned before it started) I would not have a problem with my opponent doing this as it would give me a good opportunity to try and look for stalemate opportunities.  Although I would question it if you were playing a beginner

stanhope13

if i was your opponent i would have resigned.

Rob_Soul

I don't think any lesson was taught here.

If the player on the losing end of this "game" actually understood the supposed lesson that was allegedly being taught, then that person would have resigned, right? After all, that was the intended meaning.

I have never understood people who try to teach lessons through their play. If an opponent is not capable of realizing the dire straits they're in, I would say with near certainty that they are not capable of deriving the knowledge you hope to impart on them.

And ultimately does putting the opponent through this kind of suffering really matter? Is either player's chess life enriched in any way by the experience? I doubt it.

Maybe it's just a case of someone knowing they are much better than their opponent and (under the guise of "teaching them a lesson") trying to rub that person's face in it.

Then posting their "triumph" here in the forums for all to see.

Hmm... Very weird.

CPawn
TheGrobe wrote:

What's the difference?  I'd say that poor sportsmanship is just a particular flavour of rude.


Really no difference Grob...i simply answering the question in the context of sports.  if you want to talk rude, then dont hold the door open for someone.

CPawn
mattattack99 wrote:
CPawn wrote:

Rude? thats questionable...but it is definetely poor sportsmanship.


I disagree. His opponent could have ended his suffering by resigning.


Agreed Matt...but he could have shown good sportsmanship too.  And personally being a good sport is more important than showing someone up.

rooperi

No way I can consider this rude, although I personally wont make half a dozen queens, there's no harm in constructing a pretty mate, or playing around with interesting moves.

However, a while ago I was playing a much lower rated player, and he asked me to play on till mate because he wanted to see how it's done. In that case off course I would try my best to find the fastest and easiest way.

"I like to see 'em squirm" - Bobby Fischer

e4forme

The objective or goal of the game is Checkmate! 30... Qh2# would have achieved this and would have been merciful! I found myself hoping White could find a Stalemate to teach Black this Lesson! ;-)

heather345

I am new to this game but do not consider it to be rude whatsoever

marvellosity
Rob_Soul wrote:

I don't think any lesson was taught here.

If the player on the losing end of this "game" actually understood the supposed lesson that was allegedly being taught, then that person would have resigned, right? After all, that was the intended meaning.

I have never understood people who try to teach lessons through their play. If an opponent is not capable of realizing the dire straits they're in, I would say with near certainty that they are not capable of deriving the knowledge you hope to impart on them.

And ultimately does putting the opponent through this kind of suffering really matter? Is either player's chess life enriched in any way by the experience? I doubt it.

Maybe it's just a case of someone knowing they are much better than their opponent and (under the guise of "teaching them a lesson") trying to rub that person's face in it.

Then posting their "triumph" here in the forums for all to see.

Hmm... Very weird.


You underestimate the allure of schadenfreude :D

Suggo
Reb wrote:

People who refuse to resign hopeless positions have no right to complain about how their opponent chooses to win. If you dont want to be humiliated, then resign.


Yeah, they do have the right!

Paranoid-Android
Suggo wrote:
Reb wrote:

People who refuse to resign hopeless positions have no right to complain about how their opponent chooses to win. If you dont want to be humiliated, then resign.


Yeah, they do have the right!


As I said before, when a higher(!) rated opponent doesn't resign, he knows in what he is putting himself, so he has no right to complain. He sees the mate coming, so there is no need to show him how to mate in least possible moves.

I understand that lower rated opponent wants to play on to see the technique of checkmating. So yes, it is rude to him if you don't checkmate him in the least moves possible. But not to the higher rated player.

TheGrobe
tonydal wrote:

So you somehow or other summoned up the wherewithal to be an even bigger dink than your opponent was (and published it for all to view). Congratulations.


I was trying to think how best to articulate this sentiment, but you've saved me the trouble.