If people are insulting your intelligence with stupid draw offers, then never give them a rematch or play them again. That's the only remedy. And yes it is rude to offer a draw if your position is hopelessly lost. Sensible people figure out how to use the resign button.
Isn't it rude to offer a draw when you are losing?
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Oct 18, 2015
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#83
The proper time to offer a draw is when your mating attack has failed and now you are slightly worse. Your opponent, weary from defending against the onslaught may well have compassion on you for your failure instead of grinding out the technical win. However, it is essential that once your draw offer is refused you play on until it's lone kings.
I actually was playing a blitz game with someone on shredderchess earlier this summer who blundered their queen and then offered a draw to which I declined and said, "You never know what will happen the rest of the game." As it turns out, they won on time! Had I accepted the draw offer, they would have thrown away their whole point!
I agree with NM Reb by the way. There's really no need for the internet chess to be an uber-stickler trying to maintain in perfect accordance with FIDE and/or USCF rules when it already clearly is not. So proffering outside help wouldn't be too big of a problem.
chess.com has definitely implemented the 3-fold repetition rule incorrectly. Because it's only possible to claim the draw here after it appears, your opponent can deny you the opportunity by premoving or playing quickly.
I do not know why after all these years, chess.com still doesn't fix it. Scandalous!
Not like we care.
Oct 18, 2015
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#88
r_k_ting skrev:
chess.com has definitely implemented the 3-fold repetition rule incorrectly. Because it's only possible to claim the draw here after it appears, your opponent can deny you the opportunity by premoving or playing quickly.
I do not know why after all these years, chess.com still doesn't fix it. Scandalous!
of course you have to ask for draw the moment you see a 3 fold repetition when it appears otherwise you could claim draw for the rest of the game.
your opponent cannot stop you for claiming draw regardless how fast he plays on that move.
Oct 18, 2015
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#89
Although i usually only offer a draw when it seems neither side can make progress i don't think it is rude to offer a draw once in any situation but when the other player turns it down in my view it is rude to keep offering a draw again and again.
Oct 18, 2015
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#90
btw i will agree with Eo__ that some draw offers do give me a nice chuckle.
Oct 19, 2015
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#91
kingomegared wrote:
i see draws as a defeat...i never accept them
A draw is not a defeat. Do you play on when you're in a King vs. King & Rook Pawn ending? Or do you start crying over what a horrible defeat it is?
bobbyDK wrote:
of course you have to ask for draw the moment you see a 3 fold repetition when it appears otherwise you could claim draw for the rest of the game.
your opponent cannot stop you for claiming draw regardless how fast he plays on that move.
You need to think a bit more about the situation. 3-fold repetition will only appear one of two ways: due to a move your opponent just made, or due to a move you just made.
In the first situation, it is now your move, so you have all the time on your clock to click the button to claim the draw. In the second situation, it is now your opponent's move, and they can make their move before you have the chance to claim the draw. If their move doesn't continue the repetition, you just lost the chance to claim the draw. Even worse, your opponent can make a premove, which means you will never have the opportunity to claim.
Oct 19, 2015
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#93
When I dump my Queen I immediately offer a draw and a message with a smiley...The I resign..
Oct 19, 2015
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#94
I always offer a draw at 16 times repetition - if they decline, I offer again at 42 times repetition, if they decline that, I sit down and cry for 2 hours and 36 minutes.
Oct 19, 2015
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#95
r_k_ting skrev:
bobbyDK wrote:
of course you have to ask for draw the moment you see a 3 fold repetition when it appears otherwise you could claim draw for the rest of the game.
your opponent cannot stop you for claiming draw regardless how fast he plays on that move.
You need to think a bit more about the situation. 3-fold repetition will only appear one of two ways: due to a move your opponent just made, or due to a move you just made.
In the first situation, it is now your move, so you have all the time on your clock to click the button to claim the draw. In the second situation, it is now your opponent's move, and they can make their move before you have the chance to claim the draw. If their move doesn't continue the repetition, you just lost the chance to claim the draw. Even worse, your opponent can make a premove, which means you will never have the opportunity to claim.
I think if he makes the 3rd repetion you can claim draw before making a move.
1. Rb3 Rb4 1
2. Rb2 Rb5
3. Rb3 Rb4 2
4. Rb2 Rb5
4. Rb3 Rb4 3
5. claim draw. =
You are correct. But if the black player wanted to claim the draw, on chess.com it can be denied by white:
1. Rb3 Rb4 (1)
2. Rb2 Rb5
3. Rb3 Rb4 (2)
4. Rb2 Rb5
5. Rb3 Rb4 (3) On chess.com, black can only claim after the move is played, but...
6. Rb1 White quickly plays this move, and black's chance to claim is gone.
Oct 19, 2015
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#97
I understand now. I wonder what happens if you click offer draw and make the 3rd move.
Jan 16, 2022
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#99
Yes. Offering a draw when you are losing is rude. It is something children do. Good coaches nip that behavior when they see it.
It's possible, though, but I've never had that endgame.