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Master_Po

I've read that Humphrey Bogart had a rating of near national expert, 1950.

Anyone know about what John Wayne's rating was?   

Master_Po

Yeah, I googled it...but could find nothing.  Thought maybe some of the older timers might know. 

notmtwain
Master_Po wrote:

I've read that Humphrey Bogart had a rating of near national expert, 1950.

Anyone know about what John Wayne's rating was?   

Did you see Batgirl's article on John Wayne's chess?

https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-duke

notmtwain

Someone posted this on Chessopedia.

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macer75
notmtwain wrote:

Someone posted this on Chessopedia.

 

Fidel Castro is a "dictator" but Che Guevara is a "revolutionary"... 

OnABusAcrossTheCity
Guevara was never a head of state. Hard to be a dictator without that...
Master_Po

Thanks all.  Only 1200.  Seems he'd been higher. 

notmtwain
Master_Po wrote:

Thanks all.  Only 1200.  Seems he'd been higher. 

I agree. A lot of people questioned that post.

 

 

oregonpatzer

How many of you know that John Wayne was born Marion Morrison?

Master_Po
notmtwain wrote:
Master_Po wrote:

Thanks all.  Only 1200.  Seems he'd been higher. 

I agree. A lot of people questioned that post.

 And Ray Charles at 1600?  Heh.

Right on Oregon.  And nicknamed after a dog?  Didn't know he was the salutatorian of a 200 class.   The Duke said of Rock Hudson: "I don't care if he's a q***r.  He plays damn good chess!"  

  And remember Tommy Morrison, that boxer in one of the Rocky movies?  He was great grand nephew of John Wayne - last name Morrison.  

 

 

Master_Po

The Duke liked to cheat often at chess...playing Robert Mitchum or others, he might make TWO moves in one while his opponent was distracted; or move the Knight up two and over two, or up two and over 3, whatever suited him; or move his light sqr B way over and it'd end up on a dark square.  

AlCzervik

@notmark, post #4-ray charles at 1600?

drmrboss

 Chuck Norris has 9000 rating!

Master_Po

Chuck Norris can checkmate Alpha Zero in 7 moves.  

Pikelemi
Master_Po wrote:

Chuck Norris can checkmate Alpha Zero in 7 moves.  

 

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or maybe ... CHUCKMATE

Pikelemi
notmtwain wrote:

Someone posted this on Chessopedia.

 

 

These rounded ratings almost makes me say: "FAKENEWS"

notmtwain
Pikelemi wrote:
notmtwain wrote:

Someone posted this on Chessopedia.

 

 

These rounded ratings almost makes me say: "FAKENEWS"

They are certainly estimates since people like Bogart and Lenin were dead before ratings systems were adopted. Humphrey Bogart was well known for his chess playing. https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/actor-humphrey-bogart-and-chess

Lenin helped make chess popular in the Soviet Union.

The article by Batgirl shows how devoted John Wayne was to chess.

/ I am sure that rather than respond "fake news", you will do your own research.

 

Pikelemi
notmtwain wrote:
Pikelemi wrote:
notmtwain wrote:

Someone posted this on Chessopedia.

 

 

These rounded ratings almost makes me say: "FAKENEWS"

They are certainly estimates since people like Bogart and Lenin were dead before ratings systems were adopted. Humphrey Bogart was well known for his chess playing. https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/actor-humphrey-bogart-and-chess

Lenin helped make chess popular in the Soviet Union.

The article by Batgirl shows how devoted John Wayne was to chess.

/ I am sure that rather than respond "fake news", you will do your own research.

 

 

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batgirl

The above link mentions the 1945 Pan-Am games sponsored by the Hollywood community.  This article covers that event to some extent, and talks a bit about the Hollywood players: 

https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-day-the-stars-came-out  

 

The same article in the quoted area shows a game between Kolty and Bogie.  That particular game, Kolty playing sans voir, was mentioned in "Chess Life" in 1952:

 https://www.chess.com/blog/batgirl/koltanowski-vs-bogart

 

batgirl

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When FIDE first gave official titles to players in 1950,  Herman Steiner was awarded the title of IM.

Born in Hungary in 1905, Steiner moved to NYC with his family when he was 16. When he was about 27, the former NY State champion moved to California where he became active in the Hollywood area chess scene. Almost immediately, he  founded a chess club at his home called the International Chess Club. By the 1940s the club was called the Hollywood Chess Group and boasted in excess of 100 members, many of whom were involved in some way with the movie industry. Among the better known celebrities who were connected to Steinter through their love of chess were: Humphery Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Charles Boyer, Charlie Chaplin,  Lew Ayres, John Barrymore, Jose Ferrer, Louis Hayward, Fritz Feld, Rosemary Clooney, Katharine Hepburn, Dean Martin, Louis Jourdan, John Wayne, Franchot Tone, Basil Rathbone, J. Edward Bromberg, Helmut Dantine, Frank Morgan, Nigel Bruce, Myrna Loy, Linda Darnell, Maureen O'Sullivan, Mitzi Mayfair, Josef von Sternberg, Billy Wilder, Barbara Hale, Bill Williams, Carmen Miranda,  Daun Kennedy, Jean Trent, Kathleen O'Malley and Roseanne Murray.