Keep chess fair

 Absolutely true.  And your opponent has the same amount of time for analysis until the next move is made. 

Brian

 Perfect point made!  Personal choice.

Brian

A very good point.  Granted they don't have the benefit of knowing what move you'll make (as you do, knowing what move you've just made) but it certainly serves to further mitigate any perceived unfairness to the point of near insignificance.

Per my above post I acknowledge that there is potentially a slight advantage conferred as a result of the discrepancy.  The fact, however is that it's immaterial and completely avoidable so the point really is moot.

I just want to note but this is a profit organization (or so I think) of course they are going to give an advantage, even if it is so slight, to the payer

Extra vacation time for those who pay for it is patently unfair and makes playing chess at all completley pointless. No one can enjoy the game until all inequalities are removed. Sadly this vacation time issue points to the systemic unfairness built into chess everywhere. In OTB tournaments there are innumerable ways in which rich players are advantaged over poor players. We must halt all such tournaments. Just think of the disgusting favouritism shown to rich players who choose to use their wealth to stay at hotels closer to the tournament and so have the advantage of extra time to sleep in. And that's not even the worst of it! Some players are so wealthy that they buy more chess books, which help them improve and get yet another advantage over their poor counterparts who have to make do with fewer study materials. This cannot be allowed to continue.

I propose the banning of all games that are not completely fair in the interests of keeping our sport a legetimate and honorable activity. From now on, only players who have studied equally hard, who have eaten the same foods, who have slept the same amounts and who have the same vacation time allowances can play each other. Even if the disadvantaged player would choose to play the advantaged player (as they shamefully do now), this must be immediately outlawed.

I'll be petitioning FIDE later today, after I'm done pushing the boundaries of insanity on this forum.

I agree with AAdams there.

I mean why Paris Hilton and not me, I should have a Ferrari too oh and a private jet.

Life is a real bitch

Co to it A sort em out, you and Lenin man 

For those complaining about Premium members having certain privileges, it is those members that keep this site afloat. Thanks to these people putting money into Chess.com, the hundreds of thousands of free members can continue to enjoy chess and other services here. If the paying members didn't get some extras for their money, they would have no incentive at all to hand any over. Do you think you can host a large, complex site like this and pay people's salaries from just goodwill?

So next time you complain about a Premium member, remember it's him who's funding the entertainement and instruction you can get here.

And if this site can help even the least well-off people enjoy and improve their chess, then it's doing a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

To all those who are in favor of this post, specially Adam:

Can you devise a plan to pay these guys who are kicking their butts off to maintain this site? (I know the answer is an unanimous no). Servers cost money, internet service costs money, software design and maintenance cost money - who is going to pay for them?

If you cannot find a way to pay them, can you come up with a possible reason why premium members will continue to remain premium members if they do not get any benefit for the money they are paying?

If not, please restrict your game-play with only non-premium members - state in your profile that you wont play premium members as you feel that you are being discriminated against just because you want to get free fun from this site.

"There ain't no free lunch".

As a non-premium member, I think the level of features I am allowed seems more than fair.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. It effectively stops someone winning by accident although I think everyone deserves this feature. Everyone should have the same option to automatically go into vacation mode although premium members could have more vacation time.

I purchased premium content to improve my playing ability through the available teaching aids. Anyone here who is using work arounds to cheat at chess is just not worth caring about. They are cheating themselves and at the end of the day we can block them and ignore them, how long can they ignore the fact that they cheat at everything?

Yes, have vacation time. Yes, have loads of it. But let all players have the same amount!! What's the problem with that! Is there something unpleasant about the idea?

The time-control that both players agree to should be equal and that includes vacation time. These things are important aspects of the game. No-one expects to start with extra pawns because they've paid extra money, or have extra moves because they've paid extra money. They shouldn't expect extra stop-the-clock time because they've paid extra money. These fundamental aspects of the game shouldn't depend on who has paid how much money.

Some people seem frightened that Chess.com will collapse if it stops allowing unequal vacation time. Relax. The Chess.com juggernaut will roll happily on when all players have equal vacation time. Chess.com has whole lists of goodies that people will continue to pay for such as computer analysis, tactics trainer, access to tournaments, videos, this, that and the rest of it.

So, please, Chess.com, generate your money from these lovely peripheral goodies and let the actual game be unsullied by inequality. Anything else will have a fishy stink about it; chess deserves better.

you know it makes sense.

The comparison to extra moves and material is disproportionate.  Any advantage that might be had from extra vacation time is insignificant.  I personally don't care one way or the other, but I also can't understand how anyone else could.

If your beef is that your opponent is abusing their vacation time to get extra time to analyse a position then that's an abuse of their vacation privilege and is reportable as such.  What is more vacation time for you going to accomplish in terms of "equaling the playing field" unless your wish is to abuse it in the same way?

I am a premium member and tend to agree that if there is a time limit to a game, that there should be nothing to prevent it from expiring.  I think a set limit of 1 day should mean 1 day etc and no vacation time auto jobs should be allowed. 

I agree with aadaam: the game should be equal to all, and benefits from payment should not have any effect on the game, what so ever. Added vacation period, and auto-vacation, has an effect on the outcome of some games, and on the rating we all have achieved.

For the most of us - from the rich part of the world - we're talking nickles and dimes, but if you're among the poorest of us, it's a months salary for a years membership ...

so true,my purse is empty but my mind isn't!!:))

"Life isn't fair"...John F. Kennedy

Yeah. Some people take chess a bit too seriously. People don't have the right to do that unless they make money at it :)

Or unless it happens to be during the cold war.

I believe thar chess.com should give players the option of ending a game with no result if his opponent chooses to use the vacation vacation option.