stockfish 20 ?
KID BEATING LEVEL20 CHESS.COM, DRAWING STOCKFISH 20
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Feb 18, 2020
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#3
yes level 20. sometimes i think it has a bug because it always ends in a draw
ergo_ergo wrote:
My 9 y/o keeps on drawing a level 20 stockfish and beats level 20 chess.com. Travel to chess events takes so much time and money. Are there official online tournaments he can join to accumulate uscf or fide ratings? Thanks for input!
Why don't you let your kid play here against real people? You can play some online chess that is rated by the USCF or FIDE, but those ratings don't really have any more validity than any of the online ratings, including the ones that are generated here.
Feb 19, 2020
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#7
He does play here and wins. He just had one while in the car driving him to school.
Feb 19, 2020
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#8
If he just plays and wins here and not helping with rating... what's the point? Hence my question of where can he play online to get legit rating.
Feb 19, 2020
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#9
ergo_ergo wrote:
If he just plays and wins here and not helping with rating... what's the point? Hence my question of where can he play online to get legit rating.
It would help identifying his actual playing strength (Stockfish 11 lvl 20 is not very specific) and help improving his skills.
Note that it's impossible for any human to draw a properly configured Stockfish reproducibly.
Feb 19, 2020
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#10
ergo_ergo wrote:
If he just plays and wins here and not helping with rating... what's the point? Hence my question of where can he play online to get legit rating.
FIDE has an online site and the US Chess Federation has online rated games here and on ICC that are rated against their online rating pools. However, the real test is over-the-board regular rated play.
ergo_ergo wrote:
If he just plays and wins here and not helping with rating... what's the point? Hence my question of where can he play online to get legit rating.
The conditions of online chess are not sufficient to insure an honest game without players resorting to help from computer engines. Chess.com makes strenuous efforts to reduce it but it is a constant battle to stay on top of the problem.
Real life tournaments played over the board offer a lot more assurance of honestly played games. Even in real life tournaments there are still problems but it is nothing compared to what you see online.
Still, online chess is very useful for training and if your son has any actual talent, it will become evident if he plays online chess.
Feb 19, 2020
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#14
Question then... is it not unusually possible for a 9 y/o to beat the highest level of stockfish?
ergo_ergo wrote:
Question then... is it not unusually possible for a 9 y/o to beat the highest level of stockfish?
Magnus Carlsen can't routinely beat the highest level of Stockfish at full strength.
It is possible that the performance on whatever device your son is using is handicapped in some way, which would lower its strength.
Feb 19, 2020
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#16
I'm just weighting things out if I should invest and pursue this if he has talent. You know how it is with travel, time, money, absence from work and my income depends on my time at work and most of FIDE tournaments are outside USA.
Feb 19, 2020
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#17
Notmtwain… hence I came here to get opinion if this is something I need to pursue with my kid or not. I was even googling if stockfish is beatable by human just to get answers...
Feb 19, 2020
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#19
I even posted screenshot to Stockfish facebook page but I guess it's not really an active page... no comment from Stockfish
ergo_ergo wrote:
I'm just weighting things out if I should invest and pursue this if he has talent. You know how it is with travel, time, money, absence from work and my income depends on my time at work and most of FIDE tournaments are outside USA.
Yes. Don't quit your job. There are plenty of tournaments in the US to play in and if he does very well, he will gain access to a lot of help.
What area do you live in?
My 9 y/o keeps on drawing a level 20 stockfish and beats level 20 chess.com. Travel to chess events takes so much time and money. Are there official online tournaments he can join to accumulate uscf or fide ratings? Thanks for input!