Kramnik and the 2016 candidates tourny

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Mysound

Anybody know why Kramnik was not invited to the candidates this year?  Being the highest rated player outside of magnus, I was thinking he would be there for sure.  I'm not sure if it's because of his inactivity as of late or what..anybody know?

ChrisWainscott
He didn't have a high enough rating at the time the selections were made, he didn't qualify though the World Cup, he didn't play in the Grand Prix, and lastly, the Armenian sponsors chose Aronian as the wild card.
Mysound

Thanks, that all makes sense.  However, the 1st reason-not having a high enough rating at time of selection I don't understand.  I'm pretty sure he's been rated 2801 (or right near it) for quite awhile, considering he didnt really play much at all this past year.  And if im not mistaken, the candidates selection occured in dec of 2015, which at that time he was indeed rated 2801.

Everything else mentioned makes perfectly good sense, but considering his high rating I was a bit curious (and disappointed).

Thanks for the response

Sred

There are 2 spots for the players with the best average ELO 2015. Additional constraint: they need to have played World Cup or Grand Prix. Don't know which criterion Kramnik missed.

ChrisWainscott

Kramnik was rated well below 2800 for most of the year.

https://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=4101588

mcmodern

Kramnik is just like Anand, well past their prime, time for the younger generation to take over.  This maybe the last time three old guards are playing in the candidate tournament ( Anand, Topalov and Svidler ).

ChrisWainscott

Yeah, that explains why Anand won the Candidates last time, Kramnik is rated over 2800, and Svidler went to the World Cup Finals.

 

This is chess.  There is no mandatory retirement age.  If the younger generation wants to take over they're going to have to earn it.

mcmodern
ChrisWainscott wrote:

Yeah, that explains why Anand won the Candidates last time, Kramnik is rated over 2800, and Svidler went to the World Cup Finals.

 

This is chess.  There is no mandatory retirement age.  If the younger generation wants to take over they're going to have to earn it.

 Old guys only gets older, so in two years these old dudes should be done, I am hoping no more than one old dude next cycle.

Senior-Lazarus_Long
mcmodern wrote:
ChrisWainscott wrote:

Yeah, that explains why Anand won the Candidates last time, Kramnik is rated over 2800, and Svidler went to the World Cup Finals.

 

This is chess.  There is no mandatory retirement age.  If the younger generation wants to take over they're going to have to earn it.

 Old guys only gets older, so in two years these old dudes should be done, I am hoping no more than one old dude next cycle.

They are all still young men. The oldest is Anand and he isn't even 50 yet. How old are you?

SmyslovFan

At the Zurich rapid tournament, Naka and Anand tied for first with Kramnik half a point behind in third. 

Anand and Kramnik's best days may be behind them, but they are still competitive at the highest levels. 

Senior-Lazarus_Long
icyviper wrote:

these sort of comments seem a better fit for professional female gymnastics competitions...

No girls under the age of 16 in the Olympics this time,so that's good.