And no, I'm not into political correctness, I'm into people doing what they damn well like with their lives.
Life of a Transexual Chess Player Pt. II: Competition

Pulpofeira. Good question.
The point is that transgenderism is held up by Liberal society as something wonderful / beautiful / noble. There is no discussion about the high level of mental health problems in people who also identify as transgender ('gender dysphoria').
In schools - young people are encouraged to 'explore' their gender. Children as young as 4 are asked "are your SURE you are a little boy, maybe you are a little girl?"
There are cases where children have been encouraged - whilst still teenagers or younger - to have hormone treatment. http://dailym.ai/1WQ8k3k
If someone is confused about identity issues and still exploring their sexuality (say, a teenager) - its my belief that they should not be allowed to make life changing decisions. They are too immature. As for actual children - come on - this is child abuse. There is no way these children can have any concept of what they are doing, let alone the level of maturity needed.
I think that people who WANT to get sex change surgery should have the option of doing this. But only if cleared by a doctor that they are not mentally ill. I also do not believe the taxpayer should pay - it is $10,000 of dollars. I think there should be some age limit like 21 (at least). And a long period of counselling before they get the surgery.
http://www.sexchangeregret.com/
Here is an interesting website which is the source of the following article
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/19/transgender-regret-is-real-even-if-the-media-tell-you-otherwise/
I am sure that there are lot of 'happy' transgender people who have full surgery. But i think that such a drastic decision should not be 'encouraged' (nor 'discouraged'). It should not be me - the taxpayer - funding it either. And I think that the person considering it must have a degree of maturity, and also must be mentally well - before it is available.
Otherwise society risks doing more harm than good, all in the name of political correctness and 'inclusivity'.

And no, I'm not into political correctness, I'm into people doing what they damn well like with their lives.
You are injecting emotion - ahead of rationality - into the issue. This is the core of PC. In the emotional persuit of 'protecting' one group, no thought is given to wider issues on society, children, or even the person they are 'protecting'.
Not saying this is you - this is the Liberal PC mindset.
Another example is feminists protecting Muslim women who 'want' to wear full Burkhas.

I for sure don't like our governments always "encouraging" or "disencouraging" things, they treat us as little children. I agree with your points about maturity and counselling, but I can tell you that is an obvious point at least where I live, things aren't so easy and the administrative process is complicated. I think transgenderism is a real phenomena and anyone should have access to help. About the costs, I bet our national treasures won't suffer too much with this issue.

And no, I'm not into political correctness, I'm into people doing what they damn well like with their lives.
You are injecting emotion - ahead of rationality - into the issue. This is the core of PC. In the emotional persuit of 'protecting' one group, no thought is given to wider issues on society, children, or even the person they are 'protecting'.
Not saying this is you - this is the Liberal PC mindset.
Another example is feminists protecting Muslim women who 'want' to wear full Burkhas.
That is interesting, about that issue I agree with certain Spanish author in education: they do what they want, but we make sure they have access to education wich shows them the fully spectrum and make possible they can decide this way of submission is wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xut4-BBt4V4
I am with Camille Paglia - i think it is symptomatic of a dying civilisation, a sign of moral decay and mass mental illness and depression.
"And I found in my study that history is cyclic, and everywhere in the world you find this pattern in ancient times: that as a culture begins to decline, you have an efflorescence of transgender phenomena.That is a symptom of cultural collapse. "So rather than people singing the praises of humanitarian liberalism that allows all of these transgender possibilities to appear and to be encouraged, I would be concerned about how Western culture is defining itself to the world."
But that is my view. I am completely fine with an adult man deciding to live as a transgender. I am mostly concerned that propaganda (and government legislation) is affecting social engineering on society to further it, to the extent that it is now in our school system and injected into pop culture.
The main concern is the precedent that transgenderism sets: that one can 'feel' like something one is not, and that this must be accepted by everyone else, even if they disagree. You say you are a woman, I say errr no you are called Bob and you have a penis. Today this is a hate crime, and I can go to jail or be fined. This is wrong. What about 'gender fluid' (today i feel like a woman, tomorrow i feel like a man) - this is also protected. What about non-binary (i feel like neither a man NOR a woman). What about trans-banana (today i identify as a banana). What about trans-deaf (I can hear you perfectly but I feel I identify as deaf).
I am sorry but i think this is a slippery path and as a scoiety we really need to think of the longterm consequences, not just 'enabling' or 'indulging' someone because it 'feels good' to be tolerant and understanding.
Thank you for your perspective.

@MoMeetsAisha:
Your lengthy and ongoing narrative on transgenderism is ill-informed, unhelpful and very clearly motivated by your own ideological and personal prejudices; I can only guess what these might be but it's quite plain that you do not understand this topic *at all*.

Jesus not another sockpuppet troll with an axe to grind, like we don't have enough of these already?

@MoMeetsAisha:
Your lengthy and ongoing narrative on transgenderism is ill-informed, unhelpful and very clearly motivated by your own ideological and personal prejudices; I can only guess what these might be but it's quite plain that you do not understand this topic *at all*.
Au contraire.
I have a Masters Degree in Social Work, was a trauma counsellor, and have worked personally with children within the care system who have gender dysphoria. There is a massive increase in gender dysphoria among children who are in the care system (eg childrens home). Such children are already emotionally and psychologically damaged by traumas that have lead them to come into the care system. It was my role to help them find their way through these issues and come out the other side as emotionally and mentally stable and functional as possible.
Ask yourself. Why would this guy find this issue troubling? why would he write about it? BECAUSE I HAVE DEALT WITH IT BEYOND WHAT MTV / BBC / THE GUARDIAN SAY IS POLITICALLY CORRECT.
I care, because i work with young people. It has been my lifes work. Don;t you get that a lot of this is completely IDEOLOGICALLY DRIVEN and has no basis in fact, science or antyhing else? its purely Leftist academic theorising, that then becomes 'normalised'? Since when has having another view based on science fact, become 'hate'?
Why would children in care, have a much higher incidence of gender dysphoria? why do transgenders have a very high incidence of other mental health issues? do you think - possibly - there might be some correlation? Or do you think it is mere coincidence?
In the past, in children's homes we would have tried counselling and putting off young people from making major decisions (surgery. dressing as the opposite gender, hormones etc) - until they were adults. Now the instant someone says they have doubts about their gender - social workers MUST enable and push them into their new identity. I have witnessed it in work. They actively PUSH young people and even children into making lifechanging decisions.
I say this is wrong. I am not alone. Many psychiatrists feel the same way, including some of the foremost psychiatrists in the world, in this field
http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
But hey - you read something somehwere once, and think because my opinion doesn't tally with YOUR opinion, therefore I must be 'prejudiced' (nice one).
Let me guess. You are a Liberal Leftists. Calling people you disagree with 'ill-informed', 'prejudiced', 'unhelpful' (WTF?) - seems to be the Left's argument to anyone that has another view. No links. No logic. No counter-argument. No debate.
Just random slurs against complaint strangers, simply for having a different view.

he is a well known sockpuppet here.
LOL nice one. Complete lie. I have only commented on two separate threads before. Can't debate me - so call me a sock puppet or a troll. No wonder your rating is so low... you are devoid of intellect... so you resort to petty slurs.

MoMA, again....your choice is to look at what you see and act accordingly. it seems that you have put a lot into your thoughts and words. maybe i have also or have not. somewhere above i simply pointed out that there are different ways of looking at what it is we are looking at. i didn't imply anything above how i feel about it. i will if you want ?

Jesus not another sockpuppet troll with an axe to grind, like we don't have enough of these already?
It's an election year. The crazies are out in full force.

LOL
OK nice logic there. I see the rating insult is a bit 'raw' for you. I wonder why?
Its literally the only time I replied. What, you expect me to be call troll, sock puppet, crazy, pinhead, and all the rest... and just take it without returning fire?
As for your accusation that I have numerous accounts, thats just baseless childish speculation, if you have any evidence, I am all ears. As it stands you have NADA.

Everything you've said so far is from your own personal fear of societal changes. Fella.
OK hypothetical question about your 'societal change':
Q1 - Imagine you have a daughter. She is 6. Her teacher informs you that old male children are allowed to shower with her because they say they are 'girls' on a wednesday. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THIS?
Q2 - Your son is 8. He is a bit sensitive and quiet by nature. He comes back home upset and asks you if he is really a girl. His teacher and the school social worker asked him, because they are trianed to look out for this 'problem', and because he likes hanging out with girls, they are convinced he might be gay or Trans. They bring him aside and start asking him al these questions, including grilling him about what his parents tell him (True: they are trained this way. I know, I have read the training manuals)... YOUR SON IS NOW UPSET AND TELLS YOU HE IS CONFUSED, MAYBE HE IS A GIRL. ARE YOU HAPPY ABOUT THIS?
Hypothetical scenarios designed to arouse emotional bias instead of making a logical point undermine your credibility in the minds of your audience.
But to answer your question:
A scenario where a child is inappropriately questioned is inappropriate, and a reasonable parent would be upset.
A scenario where a child is appropriately questioned is appropriate, and a reasonable parent would not be upset.
When I make wrong decisions, and this has happened many times, I never think "wish it was not made so easy". To me, the more chances to choose, the better, at least since I'm an adult, I will settle accounts with myself if I fail/regret. What about the people who is happy about their surgery?