Losing in chess continuously

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minidangelo

How you all manage losing in chess game after game? When it comes to losing I've noticed one thing that I can't leave chess until I win the same amount of games. Also, does chess affect your relationship with friends? I skipped all the birthday parties after I joined this website. 

KeSetoKaiba

Losing is never fun, but chess rating fluctuates a ton, so it is inevitable that you learn some days will drop rating (and that is okay). It is better to judge to continue playing or not more around how you feel and how well you sense you are playing. Once you notice you are beginning to tilt, or play less well, then it is usually better to stop chess for the day and try again another day. 

Sometimes you can "fight through it" and make a rating comeback, but most of the time, it is better to continue when you are feeling more "in the flow." Implementing a stop-loss system could be valuable if you have the discipline to follow it, but ultimately the key should be to not obsess over rating at all (although probably everyone worries about rating a bit more than they should including myself) wink.png

Keep the emphasis on learning and improving, rather than on rating. If you can do this, then long-term your rating will go up as it catches up to your ability happy.png

Chess hasn't impacted anything outside of chess for me really. It shouldn't affect friendships and you probably shouldn't be missing all birthday parties to play chess. Like any other hobby, it is about managing when you want to play it and when you want to do other things (like birthday parties)

minidangelo
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

Losing is never fun, but chess rating fluctuates a ton, so it is inevitable that you learn some days will drop rating (and that is okay). It is better to judge to continue playing or not more around how you feel and how well you sense you are playing. Once you notice you are beginning to tilt, or play less well, then it is usually better to stop chess for the day and try again another day. 

Sometimes you can "fight through it" and make a rating comeback, but most of the time, it is better to continue when you are feeling more "in the flow." Implementing a stop-loss system could be valuable if you have the discipline to follow it, but ultimately the key should be to not obsess over rating at all (although probably everyone worries about rating a bit more than they should including myself)

Keep the emphasis on learning and improving, rather than on rating. If you can do this, then long-term your rating will go up as it catches up to your ability

Chess hasn't impacted anything outside of chess for me really. It shouldn't affect friendships and you probably shouldn't be missing all birthday parties to play chess. Like any other hobby, it is about managing when you want to play it and when you want to do other things (like birthday parties)

In August, I played my majority of games unrated against players who were higher rated than me. I learnt discovery attack, closed vs open position and how to prevent losing a rook by the knight(haha). I believe my learning curve is higher when I play unrated against high rated players. Looking forward to defeat you kesetokaibahappy.png

Galactus_97

yeah, been through that. But then I take some days off from chess. And when I return to it I win most of my games.

tygxc

#1
"How you all manage losing in chess game after game?"
++ Losing is no fun, but it is an opportunity to learn from your mistakes. Whenever you lose a game, stop playing and analyse it first.

"When it comes to losing I've noticed one thing that I can't leave chess until I win the same amount of games."
++ That is known as the gambler's fallacy. Do not do that. When you lose, analyse.

"does chess affect your relationship with friends?" ++ Yes: it consumes time.

"I skipped all the birthday parties after I joined this website."
++ What do you like more: play chess or attend a birthday party?

minidangelo
tygxc wrote:

#1
"How you all manage losing in chess game after game?"
++ Losing is no fun, but it is an opportunity to learn from your mistakes. Whenever you lose a game, stop playing and analyse it first.

"When it comes to losing I've noticed one thing that I can't leave chess until I win the same amount of games."
++ That is known as the gambler's fallacy. Do not do that. When you lose, analyse.

"does chess affect your relationship with friends?" ++ Yes: it consumes time.

"I skipped all the birthday parties after I joined this website."
++ What do you like more: play chess or attend a birthday party?

I love chess more than birthday party( unless they play chess at the party). But nobody will come on my birthday party too! Will you come? happy.png

Vincidroid

If it’s interrupting your social bonds, then it is probably unhealthy for you. 

Wirefish

What a practical advice by KeSetoKaiba. Yep, learning should be continuous while playing to enjoy chess. Obsession over ratings is counterproductive.

JonLovegrove
If there is one given fact in chess, it’s that you will lose. Eventually. Losing with grace and dignity is a strength too but unfortunately not many players do it even though it’s an inevitable outcome. Be at peace with it, congratulate your opponent no matter how much it hurts.

I’ve dropped from around 1400 to around the 1250 mark recently.
Yes I get upset, I get frustrated but it’s not the first time and it won’t be the last time. Eventually I climb back to the mark I’m used to. I believe the loss is a reflection of how busy or tired my brain is!

Sometimes you just have to put it down and move on, relax your brain, do something else.
minidangelo
JonLovegrove wrote:
If there is one given fact in chess, it’s that you will lose. Eventually. Losing with grace and dignity is a strength too but unfortunately not many players do it even though it’s an inevitable outcome. Be at peace with it, congratulate your opponent no matter how much it hurts.

I’ve dropped from around 1400 to around the 1250 mark recently.
Yes I get upset, I get frustrated but it’s not the first time and it won’t be the last time. Eventually I climb back to the mark I’m used to. I believe the loss is a reflection of how busy or tired my brain is!

Sometimes you just have to put it down and move on, relax your brain, do something else.

I hope you climb the rating very soon! All the best

Tribbled
minidangelo wrote:

When it comes to losing I've noticed one thing that I can't leave chess until I win the same amount of games. Also, does chess affect your relationship with friends? I skipped all the birthday parties after I joined this website. 

I've written about losing streaks before; you do get into a vicious circle where your play level decreases as you get increasingly tired and frustrated. Of course what you need to do then is stop playing but I know that's easier said than done.

A more specific advice is to avoid the feeling that you should win. You see, one observation I made in my own games is that during a winning streak, many of my wins were actually bitter fights from a losing position or what should be a technical draw, or winning on time from a losing position on the board. But, during a losing streak, I start to expect "clean" wins and lose a lot of that guile and craftiness. 

You need to be in a mindset where you are ready to "steal" wins from anyone, and not underestimate players who are even 200 or more points lower than your typical rating.

The last thing to say though, is that if chess is starting to impact the rest of your life then that is very serious and I recommend speaking to someone in person about it, whether a good friend or a therapist, no game should impact the quality of your life. Good luck.

minidangelo
blitz2009 wrote:
You will never be better than me and I can assure you that

ok

IsraeliGal

Tilting exists in chess like any other competitive activity.

You lose a game or two in a row and you get angry, you start blaming things other than yourself, and you want to right a wrong, so you keep playing, but because you're not focused on playing well, but rather focused on winning, you play worse, so you lose, this gets worse and worse. 

 

The only way to combat this is to just stop playing for a while, take a break, have a shower, eat something, go out with a friend. Come back later and have another chess session. There's no reason to continue playing when you're tilted. All you're doing is having a bad time playing a board game that you would normally enjoy. Don't subject yourself to that.

 

but ultimately, its up to you. 

minidangelo
Tribbled wrote:
minidangelo wrote:

When it comes to losing I've noticed one thing that I can't leave chess until I win the same amount of games. Also, does chess affect your relationship with friends? I skipped all the birthday parties after I joined this website. 

I've written about losing streaks before; you do get into a vicious circle where your play level decreases as you get increasingly tired and frustrated. Of course what you need to do then is stop playing but I know that's easier said than done.

A more specific advice is to avoid the feeling that you should win. You see, one observation I made in my own games is that during a winning streak, many of my wins were actually bitter fights from a losing position or what should be a technical draw, or winning on time from a losing position on the board. But, during a losing streak, I start to expect "clean" wins and lose a lot of that guile and craftiness. 

You need to be in a mindset where you are ready to "steal" wins from anyone, and not underestimate players who are even 200 or more points lower than your typical rating.

The last thing to say though, is that if chess is starting to impact the rest of your life then that is very serious and I recommend speaking to someone in person about it, whether a good friend or a therapist, no game should impact the quality of your life. Good luck.

Wow! thank you for writing such a detailed and helpful answer happy.png 

Arnaut10

When you lose 3 games in a row ylu should just stop playing rated games. If you feel like you want to play more play unrated and come back for those points tomorrow after good night of sleep when your mind is fresh for a new game.

Pan_troglodites
minidangelo wrote:

How you all manage losing in chess game after game? When it comes to losing I've noticed one thing that I can't leave chess until I win the same amount of games. Also, does chess affect your relationship with friends? I skipped all the birthday parties after I joined this website. 


It is a phase of life.
I stopped to play everyday and just play as host and against bots in order to do not low my score.


Aranut10 post above is also good!



When you lose 3 games in a row ylu should just stop playing rated games. If you feel like you want to play more play unrated and come back for those points tomorrow after good night of sleep when your mind is fresh for a new game.





MentalOut5

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Pan_troglodites

Minidangelo, have you already take a look at your biorithym?

I don't know if it works or is only a pseudoscience, like Astrology.

 https://www.biorhythmonline.com

minidangelo
blitz2009 wrote:
Your improvement will be rapid! I went from 2000 to 2200 like this.

You must be in school. I have a job too, kiddo. happy.png

market_crash

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