Lyudmil Tsvetkov

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stewardjandstewardj
Logan-Paul wrote:

STOP FIGHTING WITH MY BOI LYUDMIL

HIS TIPS ARE REALLY GOOD!

Our tips are much better, but he won't listen to them. His tips are many times just getting us to buy his book.

chesster3145
GWTR wrote:
stewardjandstewardj wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
DeirdreSkye wrote:
GWTR wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

first you claim to be stronger than carlsen, now you claim you've written the only book worth reading. you're either delusional or one of the most persistent trolls i've ever seen. bye.

... or he's (unfortunately) been fighting "fire with fire."

You understand people come on here and (unprofessionally) call him things like "delusional"?

You are very confused but that hardly surprises anyone.

First he said a bunch of nonsense  then I(and others) called him delusional.

     The first big nonsense he said was that Kasparov was actually weak and that he learns 5 times better wIth Stockfish than if he studied with him!That was only 2 days after he created his account.Then he continued calling all GMs today , even Carlsen , weak and claiming that only he knows the real secret of chess.

            There was no "fire" back then.He started it.

Another lie.

I published a good book and spread the word.

Then some trolls appeared, who did not read the book but accused me of something.

Had they read the book, there would be no altercations.

Bud they did not.

This 'Secret of Chess' thread was quiet for quite some time, so the 2 days statement is further lying.

Lyudmil, from what I see, is not the one that started the fire. Us people criticized him first. Lyudmil, however, WAS the person to set a bajillion candles on the ground in a room of a couple hundred people. What I'm basically saying, Lyudmil, you didn't start the fire, but you pretty much caused it. Us "trolls" aren't trolls intending to knock down all of the candles, but it's going to happen. And we do it for a good reason too. Why wouldn't we? We're fighting fire with water, but you somehow magically have some sort of magical substance that keeps the fire going. Most people call it ignorance.

So your defense is also (please read in Eric Cartman's voice) "But mommmmm, LT started it"?

 

Is The Secret of Happiness (get it?) writing negative comments about the same person over and over and over on a chess message board??

 

Would you like to play a 5-day move game of chess?  I hear it can be fun sometime ...

We who actually see through LT's "I am God and everyone else is nothing" shtick don't have to justify ourselves to you. Do you want to support someone who behaves as he does? He's called every chess player in the world weak many times, insinuated that none of his detractors understand anything, made the objectively false claim that his playing strength is 3500, possibly faked the games themselves, and has lied when he couldn't find any other way to keep his house of cards from collapsing. On top of it all, I and others have shown his examples to be thoroughly ordinary and explained better than he could ever explain them through already well-known patterns and ideas.

stewardjandstewardj
Iam2busy wrote:

Okay. What if I told you that I was better than everyone at swimming, even Michael Phelps?

And that you should pay me for swimming classes?

Would you trust me? If not, what would you do?

Would you ask me to show you?

And what if I refused to swim in the pool because there were "too many people" inside?

I'd do the same exact thing I did to Lyudmil XD

GWTR
chesster3145 wrote:
GWTR wrote:
stewardjandstewardj wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
DeirdreSkye wrote:
GWTR wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

first you claim to be stronger than carlsen, now you claim you've written the only book worth reading. you're either delusional or one of the most persistent trolls i've ever seen. bye.

... or he's (unfortunately) been fighting "fire with fire."

You understand people come on here and (unprofessionally) call him things like "delusional"?

You are very confused but that hardly surprises anyone.

First he said a bunch of nonsense  then I(and others) called him delusional.

     The first big nonsense he said was that Kasparov was actually weak and that he learns 5 times better wIth Stockfish than if he studied with him!That was only 2 days after he created his account.Then he continued calling all GMs today , even Carlsen , weak and claiming that only he knows the real secret of chess.

            There was no "fire" back then.He started it.

Another lie.

I published a good book and spread the word.

Then some trolls appeared, who did not read the book but accused me of something.

Had they read the book, there would be no altercations.

Bud they did not.

This 'Secret of Chess' thread was quiet for quite some time, so the 2 days statement is further lying.

Lyudmil, from what I see, is not the one that started the fire. Us people criticized him first. Lyudmil, however, WAS the person to set a bajillion candles on the ground in a room of a couple hundred people. What I'm basically saying, Lyudmil, you didn't start the fire, but you pretty much caused it. Us "trolls" aren't trolls intending to knock down all of the candles, but it's going to happen. And we do it for a good reason too. Why wouldn't we? We're fighting fire with water, but you somehow magically have some sort of magical substance that keeps the fire going. Most people call it ignorance.

So your defense is also (please read in Eric Cartman's voice) "But mommmmm, LT started it"?

 

Is The Secret of Happiness (get it?) writing negative comments about the same person over and over and over on a chess message board??

 

Would you like to play a 5-day move game of chess?  I hear it can be fun sometime ...

We who actually see through LT's "I am God and everyone else is nothing" shtick don't have to justify ourselves to you. Do you want to support someone who behaves as he does? He's called every chess player in the world weak many times, insinuated that none of his detractors understand anything, made the objectively false claim that his playing strength is 3500, possibly faked the games themselves, and has lied when he couldn't find any other way to keep his house of cards from collapsing. On top of it all, I and others have shown his examples to be thoroughly ordinary and explained better than he could ever explain them through already well-known patterns and ideas.

I am sure the top GMs are not stressing about his 3500 claim.tongue.png

You might be right though.  Does anyone have Carlsen's cell number?

stewardjandstewardj
GWTR wrote:

So your defense is also (please read in Eric Cartman's voice) "But mommmmm, LT started it"?

 

Is The Secret of Happiness (get it?) writing negative comments about the same person over and over and over on a chess message board??

 

Would you like to play a 5-day move game of chess?  I hear it can be fun sometime ...

The fact that he started it is the EXACT OPPOSITE from what I said. Don't twist my words like that.

And our comments might be more helpful, but his is proven to be more harmful, as it has convinced people like you that he is actually right. I started posting negative, yet mostly factual information about his claims. One thing I can't stand it is when people believe such a person, and when I got on the "StockFish is Blind" forum, that's EXACTLY what people are doing. Fortunately, these people were ignorant, but not ignorant as a person. These people just needed to be guided to the light, but they are smart enough to realize how unreasonable Lyudmil's claims were soon after I joined the discussion. These people I speak of have this thing called COMMON SENSE. You haven't even attempted to try and seek truth, but rather oddly believe Lyudmil. No offense, but you are either ignorant, or just personally know Lyudmil.

Or maybe you are helping Lyudmil be a really persistent troll??? 0_o

stewardjandstewardj

Just a reminder to PLEASE delete unnecessary quotes! We should see nothing more than your text, the text you quoted, and the text the quote quoted. We don't need to see to text you quoted, that quoted something that quoted something that quoted something else! Let's try and not pile up a mountain of quote debris in this forum!

GWTR
stewardjandstewardj wrote:
GWTR wrote:

So your defense is also (please read in Eric Cartman's voice) "But mommmmm, LT started it"?

 

Is The Secret of Happiness (get it?) writing negative comments about the same person over and over and over on a chess message board??

 

Would you like to play a 5-day move game of chess?  I hear it can be fun sometime ...

The fact that he started it is the EXACT OPPOSITE from what I said. Don't twist my words like that.

And our comments might be more helpful, but his is proven to be more harmful, as it has convinced people like you that he is actually right. I started posting negative, yet mostly factual information about his claims. One thing I can't stand it is when people believe such a person, and when I got on the "StockFish is Blind" forum, that's EXACTLY what people are doing. Fortunately, these people were ignorant, but not ignorant as a person. These people just needed to be guided to the light, but they are smart enough to realize how unreasonable Lyudmil's claims were soon after I joined the discussion. These people I speak of have this thing called COMMON SENSE. You haven't even attempted to try and seek truth, but rather oddly believe Lyudmil. No offense, but you are either ignorant, or just personally know Lyudmil.

Or maybe you are helping Lyudmil be a really persistent troll??? 0_o

I really like the games and annotations in Human Versus Machine, Part 1.  They're pretty amazing.  Check it out.

stewardjandstewardj
GWTR wrote:
stewardjandstewardj wrote:
GWTR wrote:

So your defense is also (please read in Eric Cartman's voice) "But mommmmm, LT started it"?

 

Is The Secret of Happiness (get it?) writing negative comments about the same person over and over and over on a chess message board??

 

Would you like to play a 5-day move game of chess?  I hear it can be fun sometime ...

The fact that he started it is the EXACT OPPOSITE from what I said. Don't twist my words like that.

And our comments might be more helpful, but his is proven to be more harmful, as it has convinced people like you that he is actually right. I started posting negative, yet mostly factual information about his claims. One thing I can't stand it is when people believe such a person, and when I got on the "StockFish is Blind" forum, that's EXACTLY what people are doing. Fortunately, these people were ignorant, but not ignorant as a person. These people just needed to be guided to the light, but they are smart enough to realize how unreasonable Lyudmil's claims were soon after I joined the discussion. These people I speak of have this thing called COMMON SENSE. You haven't even attempted to try and seek truth, but rather oddly believe Lyudmil. No offense, but you are either ignorant, or just personally know Lyudmil.

Or maybe you are helping Lyudmil be a really persistent troll??? 0_o

I really like the games and annotations in Human Versus Machine, Part 1.  They're pretty amazing.  Check it out.

Completely ignoring the thing I have said so you don't have to face the truth, completely changing the topic in the process? You might be more stubborn and ignorant than Lyudmil! I don't remember him doing that EVEN ONCE the way you just did.

No wonder you believe him. Liking a couple of games does not prove he is the best person in the world.

GWTR
stewardjandstewardj wrote:
GWTR wrote:
stewardjandstewardj wrote:
GWTR wrote:

So your defense is also (please read in Eric Cartman's voice) "But mommmmm, LT started it"?

 

Is The Secret of Happiness (get it?) writing negative comments about the same person over and over and over on a chess message board??

 

Would you like to play a 5-day move game of chess?  I hear it can be fun sometime ...

The fact that he started it is the EXACT OPPOSITE from what I said. Don't twist my words like that.

And our comments might be more helpful, but his is proven to be more harmful, as it has convinced people like you that he is actually right. I started posting negative, yet mostly factual information about his claims. One thing I can't stand it is when people believe such a person, and when I got on the "StockFish is Blind" forum, that's EXACTLY what people are doing. Fortunately, these people were ignorant, but not ignorant as a person. These people just needed to be guided to the light, but they are smart enough to realize how unreasonable Lyudmil's claims were soon after I joined the discussion. These people I speak of have this thing called COMMON SENSE. You haven't even attempted to try and seek truth, but rather oddly believe Lyudmil. No offense, but you are either ignorant, or just personally know Lyudmil.

Or maybe you are helping Lyudmil be a really persistent troll??? 0_o

I really like the games and annotations in Human Versus Machine, Part 1.  They're pretty amazing.  Check it out.

Completely ignoring the thing I have said so you don't have to face the truth, completely changing the topic in the process? You might be more stubborn and ignorant than Lyudmil! I don't remember him doing that EVEN ONCE the way you just did.

No wonder you believe him. Liking a couple of games does not prove he is the best person in the world.

I was not trying to be rude.  What truth do you seek from me?

stewardjandstewardj
GWTR wrote:
stewardjandstewardj wrote:

Completely ignoring the thing I have said so you don't have to face the truth, completely changing the topic in the process? You might be more stubborn and ignorant than Lyudmil! I don't remember him doing that EVEN ONCE the way you just did.

No wonder you believe him. Liking a couple of games does not prove he is the best person in the world.

I was not trying to be rude.  What truth do you seek from me?

I never said you were being rude. You have once again twisted my words and failed to acknowledge what I have said. I believe you are not being rude, but stubborn. I don't ask any truth from you. Instead, I ask that you seek truth. Don't hide from the truth. It only makes you dumber, more ignorant, and in extreme cases, significantly worsens your moral beliefs. You fail to realize the absurdity in the claims Lyudmil has made. You completely ignore many things said against him and the logic that goes with it. Do you not want to seek truth? Do you want to live under a rock, hiding from the common sense us people who face truth have? Well, if you do, you would have stopped supporting Lyudmil a long time ago.

I know your intentions were not to be rude. I have met many other people who do similar things like you. And they all do it for the same reason. To hide from reality. These people don't care about what's right as much as whether they're right. And they don't want to be wrong, so they will fight with all of their might to be right. Ironically, it only makes them more wrong. I even find it unethical to act like this. To take truth and burn it to ashes. Please don't be this kind of person. I don't mean just this topic, but in your everyday life.

hitthepin
Steward, as I said to @torrunburi, people are entitled to have their own opinions. If he’s not going to listen why bother anyway?
hitthepin
?!?!?!?!

GWTR’s game with @Bobby_Topolov is already over?!
Duck-Season
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Duck-Season

Come to think of it there has never been a time in human history where the great minds, the thinkers, prophets and philosophers were not criticized, insulted or prosecuted.

This is simply what the ignorant, uneducated and unwashed masses do.

In time Mr. Tsvetkov’s contributions will take their rightful place in chess history.

GWTR
hitthepin wrote:
?!?!?!?!

GWTR’s game with @Bobby_Topolov is already over?!

Heck yeah.  He's good!  (And, much more important, one of the good guys.  I was wrong.)

GWTR
Duck-Season wrote:

Come to think of it there has never been a time in human history where the great minds, the thinkers, prophets and philosophers were not criticized, insulted or prosecuted.

This is simply what the ignorant, uneducated and unwashed masses do.

In time Mr. Tsvetkov’s contributions will take their rightful place in chess history.

Check out moves 36 and 39 in game 8 of Human Versus Machine, Part 1.  YOU WILL NEVER LOOK AT MATING NETS THE SAME AGAIN!

(And please don't tell me it's the Rockstar Sugar Free and absinthe mix I just consumed.) @hitthepin, don't be a fool,  stay in school!

chesster3145
Duck-Season wrote:

I believe one of the biggest problems here is really nothing but severe envy.

Mr. Tsvetkov , a diplomat and co-developer of Stockfish writes yet another book on chess, he should be applauded for helping to give chess players all over the world a tool they use on a daily basis.

Instead all we find is this irrational and inexplicable hatred.

Even those who choose to support him and call for an end to all the unwarranted criticism gets attacked and threatened with being reported.

Then I looked at cheeser3536’s profile.....he posts a few weak games as his ‘ best’ and he is busy writing a chess blog no less with about fifteen links to it on his profile, but what has he ever done for chess? Has he ever written a book? Has he ever been involved in developing new chess technology?

NO, he has done nothing....no-thing and so like most critics he attacks the people who did do something.

After alll that is what a critic is : somebody who can’t do it himself.

ps. Your little threats are as weak as you are chesster911

 

 

Reported.

hitthepin
Duck season, you may be right. But insulting us is not the way to prove your point.
GWTR
Duck-Season wrote:

I believe one of the biggest problems here is really nothing but severe envy.

Mr. Tsvetkov , a diplomat and co-developer of Stockfish writes yet another book on chess, he should be applauded for helping to give chess players all over the world a tool they use on a daily basis.

Instead all we find is this irrational and inexplicable hatred.

Even those who choose to support him and call for an end to all the unwarranted criticism gets attacked and threatened with being reported.

Then I looked at cheeser3536’s profile.....he posts a few weak games as his ‘ best’ and he is busy writing a chess blog no less with about fifteen links to it on his profile, but what has he ever done for chess? Has he ever written a book? Has he ever been involved in developing new chess technology?

NO, he has done nothing....no-thing and so like most critics he attacks the people who did do something.

After alll that is what a critic is : somebody who can’t do it himself.

ps. Your little threats are as weak as you are chesster911 

For some reason, I can't stop laughing about you changing the numbers of his user name with every reference!  (Where did 3536 come from???)

cellomaster8

Well, it looks like LT has convinced another person to become his supporter