we lost. such a pitty...
Magnus vs World predictions?
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lol huge forum, it was impossibly for us to win, there were so many bad chess players or people who didn't even play chess voting...the 3 GM's were just putting out suggestions.
paul211 wrote:
Kacparov wrote:
I hardly get anything
I had to press the f5 (refresh button several times to get an update on the moves) Something to improve on in the future.
Yeah, that was kind of annoying.
FifthDimension wrote:
lol huge forum, it was impossibly for us to win, there were so many bad chess players or people who didn't even play chess voting...the 3 GM's were just putting out suggestions.
I think the problem was that it was very difficult for the world to form a clear strategy. A chat room next time might help.
ColdCoffee wrote:
FifthDimension wrote:
lol huge forum, it was impossibly for us to win, there were so many bad chess players or people who didn't even play chess voting...the 3 GM's were just putting out suggestions.
I think the problem was that it was very difficult for the world to form a clear strategy. A chat room next time might help.
Oh, and if the GM's could comment their moves and calculations.
I had to refresh every move or every 2 minutes, one of the reasons I gave up
I'm soooo sorry guys this was disappointing my Rybka exploded after 9 moves. If that had not happened, we might had had a chance.
heinzie wrote:
I'm soooo sorry guys this was disappointing my Rybka exploded after 9 moves. If that had not happened, we might had had a chance.
Dang it Heinzie! The world was counting on you and you blew it! If only you had upgraded your ram last paycheck- we could have won!
Sep 10, 2010
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#170
Mephisto wrote:
Kasparov shouting "resign ! resign ! resign!" made my day ! Hilarious ! Maurice beat kasparov three times over today !
I got a kick out of it too. Ya gotta know when ta fold 'em..
sparenone wrote:
Those last post here about the GM and strategies was great. I am sorry but i guess a person could gain something from this little money maker by Don King. Don i know your here somewhere you greedy little man.
I reall found this interesting:
heinzie wrote:
OK the questions
1. Magnum Carlsen wins already based on the format of picking moves for the "World" team alone
2. 36 moves or so when the website is pulled down
3. Bongcloud (if only we could get a bandwagon trend going for the first few moves, that'd be a cool way to ruin the rest of the game for everybody)
4. I think Pikachu Nakamura will be the most influential simply because the American kids rated around 1300 love him and his "beat the patzer" attitude. Lavache-Quirit seems more comprehensive and more able to share his thoughts. Polgár is just there for the royalties and the female touch - simply for the "look, women can play chess too" kind of vibe used to promote this game.
Why haven't these GMs published a series of preparation articles yet? How are we weaklings going to beat the world no. 1 like this?
Judit Polgar's peak rating is identical to Nakamura's. She has also been a top 10 player and made it to the final candidates round of the world championships - things that Nakamura has yet to do and may never do. But if it makes you feel better to ascribe her participation to, "look, women can play chess too", don't let me stop you ...
Man, you really have a thing with Don King! I think your Don King comments have been the more entertaining part of this whole thing.
The 3 GM's playing a game without consulting each other is more like a 1/3 of a GM.
No wonder it was a breeze for no 1.
onefineham wrote:
Mephisto wrote:
Kasparov shouting "resign ! resign ! resign!" made my day ! Hilarious ! Maurice beat kasparov three times over today !
I got a kick out of it too. Ya gotta know when ta fold 'em..
That was pretty good, I wish we had camera feed of the 3 GMs, that would have been great!
bsrasmus wrote:
Judit Polgar's peak rating is identical to Nakamura's. She has also been a top 10 player and made it to the final candidates round of the world championships - things that Nakamura has yet to do and may never do. But if it makes you feel better to ascribe her participation to, "look, women can play chess too", don't let me stop you ...
Sure, Judit was just as strong at one time as Nakamura is now. But, come on, do you really believe that this event was going to occur minus a female GM? She's the best woman in the world right now and probably will be for a long time, she's but not currently at Naka's level. There were much better choices to fill Judit's spot if gender wasn't important. But obviously it was.
I am not sure what you mean by much better choices seeing as, the top GMs who would have fair chances to beat Karlsen playing individually were not supposed to participate. Judit Polgar is a strong below-top GM and seems like a reasonable choice.
apolon81 wrote:
The 3 GM's playing a game without consulting each other is more like a 1/3 of a GM.
No wonder it was a breeze for no 1.
I think that the point was if the 3 GMs could consult, it would have been MC against the 3 GMs, the GMs were supposed to be here in a more or less advisory capacity (In principle).
Sep 10, 2010
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sparenone wrote:
Those last post here about the GM and strategies was great. I am sorry but i guess a person could gain something from this little money maker by Don King. Don i know your here somewhere you greedy little man.
I reall found this interesting:
heinzie wrote:
OK the questions
1. Magnum Carlsen wins already based on the format of picking moves for the "World" team alone
2. 36 moves or so when the website is pulled down
3. Bongcloud (if only we could get a bandwagon trend going for the first few moves, that'd be a cool way to ruin the rest of the game for everybody)
4. I think Pikachu Nakamura will be the most influential simply because the American kids rated around 1300 love him and his "beat the patzer" attitude. Lavache-Quirit seems more comprehensive and more able to share his thoughts. Polgár is just there for the royalties and the female touch - simply for the "look, women can play chess too" kind of vibe used to promote this game.
Why haven't these GMs published a series of preparation articles yet? How are we weaklings going to beat the world no. 1 like this?
Judit Polgar's peak rating is identical to Nakamura's. She has also been a top 10 player and made it to the final candidates round of the world championships - things that Nakamura has yet to do and may never do. But if it makes you feel better to ascribe her participation to, "look, women can play chess too", don't let me stop you ...
I tend to agree about Judit's play. She frequently had different suggestions that were ignored by the voters too heavily influenced by Naka early on. I don't know whose suggestion that cxd5 was... but I recall seeing Judit calling for a Ne8 LOOONG before the move was actually made... and when it might have actually mattered. I am not 100% certain but I believe that was her suggestion WHEN the disasterous cxd5 was actually made.
Sep 10, 2010
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#177
sparenone wrote:
Forget Carlsen lets talk about the post game forum that is going on now.
This is great. Guys keep talking about this.
We're trying to ... but someone keeps saying: "It's all about money!"
sparenone wrote:
Atos wrote:
bsrasmus wrote:
Judit Polgar's peak rating is identical to Nakamura's. She has also been a top 10 player and made it to the final candidates round of the world championships - things that Nakamura has yet to do and may never do. But if it makes you feel better to ascribe her participation to, "look, women can play chess too", don't let me stop you ...
Sure, Judit was just as strong at one time as Nakamura is now. But, come on, do you really believe that this event was going to occur minus a female GM? She's the best woman in the world right now and probably will be for a long time, she's but not currently at Naka's level. There were much better choices to fill Judit's spot if gender wasn't important. But obviously it was.
I am not sure what you mean by much better choices seeing as, the top GMs who would have fair chances to beat Karlsen playing individually were not supposed to participate. Judit Polgar is a strong below-top GM and seems like a reasonable choice.
So Atos do agree with the selection of those GM playing against Carlsen? Could there have been a better selection then maybe they would have worked together!
I suppose that the selection had to do with who was willing / available as well. Personally I don't think Nakamura is a good choice for a team match because he has a highly tactical and unconventional style that is not easily picked up by most people. Those people who voted for Nakamura's suggestions voted, I think, because they were Nakamura's suggestions and not really because they understood what he was getting at.
I liked the format. GMs didn't need to consult each other as there wasn't that many moves candidates. To play Ne8 or not was really a matter of preferance, you just get a different game, not better or worse but different. Magnus outplayed the world as simple as that
odessian wrote:
I liked the format. GMs didn't need to consult each other as there wasn't that many moves candidates. To play Ne8 or not was really a matter of preferance, you just get a different game, not better or worse but different. Magnus outplayed the world as simple as that
Wrong, we can't play a dubious moves such as Bg4 and then not follow up with Nh5 or Ne8 and f5, f4. We can't compete on the queenside at this point and needed to have our own counterplay on the kingside. The GMs were playing two different plans and so magnus crushed the world.
That is all i am asking not trying to be funny.
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If you see a gray haired man with funny hair style that would be Don King. The fight promoter for Mike Tyson who drainded mike for all his money. I would not surprised if he entered the chess world and was in some way behind all of this. Don King made money off champs, then whe they lost it he went to the next guy.
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Any sitings of Robin Givens or one of money hungry friends, she gives women a bad name. Glas atleast one person gained something from all of this. None of are going to get mentioned or make any money.
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Oh i forgot to anwser the the one question. In the day of sports and steriods. Well i am glad to say that chess is the one game that is great. We play and interested for the love of the game. We love to play the game not because of some event. When i first started i was not sure why i kept playing. The love of chess is pure. The more i played the more i was hooked. Day or Night, snow, rain, windy day, cold or hot day we can play chess any time. Even if you dont have a chess board we chess fanatics can make a chess board out of anything. And i have done it.
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I sure many feel the same way. I did not know one GM when i started. 7yrs went past before i knew of them. Face it is all about the money. Companies cant ignore this event it is a chance to make money i dont blame them. I just look at Carlsen and say shame on him. I fell fot it and it happened again then shame on me.
I am still not clear on your point. People should love chess intrinsically? Not because a model hands the trophy to Magnus at the end? Maybe, I cant really say I agree or disagree. I am not sure I feel it maters at all. G-Star making money off of this event? I am sure they are. Again, I do not see why this is bad. I am not here to defend busness, or capitalism or anything else particularly, but to say this event is "All about money" is completely wrong. This suggests that money was the ONLY motivating factor which I do not believe. What will the cultural impact be after all is said and done? I do not know, but I do not believe the bottom line was the ONLY consideration on the table.