Mark's Opening beats a World Champion

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In the 2020 Women's World Chess Championship match, game 12,  Aleksandra Goryachkina beat the women's World Champion, Ju Wenjun, using Mark's Opening (www.Marksopening.blogspot.com).

That's got to be evidence that it's not a bad opening.

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SaintMark wrote:

In the 2020 Women's World Chess Championship match, game 12,  Aleksandra Goryachkina beat the women's World Champion, Ju Wenjun, using Mark's Opening (www.Marksopening.blogspot.com).

That's got to be evidence that it's not a bad opening.

 

Interesting.

https://www.chess.com/news/view/2020-women-world-chess-championship-goryachkina-ju-wenjun-game-12



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There is no such thing as "Mark's opening". Give it over, stop spamming your site. If this opening has any name it's the Jobava. It's doubtful whether or not it deserves one though as all of these openings with early Bf4 fall under the umbrella of the London system. The London system is well-known and has often been used by many GMs at the top level including Carlsen himself. It's not like someone just invented this brand new opening.  

You seem very confused on how opening names come about. Opening names don't just come about by someone "claiming" them like claiming a piece of land by putting a flag on it. Opening names are given to them by people other than the one that used them. Usually for someone to name your opening you'll have to have several great masterpieces where the individual has used the opening to great effect and inspired others to start using it. Or sometimes if it was played a lot in one location it gets named after a city or country.   

So give over this ridiculous idea.    

 

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 An opening is usually named after a player that played it a lot, or the player that first analysed it, or a player who popularized it. Mark was the first player to publish analysis of it.

 As far as I know, Jobava never played it at a high level before 2014. That was at least 6 years after Mark's analysis of it was published.

 Nf3 is normally played before Nc3 in the London system.

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SaintMark wrote:

 An opening is usually named after a player that played it a lot, or the player that first analysed it, or a player who popularized it. Mark was the first player to publish analysis of it.

 As far as I know, Jobava never played it at a high level before 2014. That was at least 6 years after Mark's analysis of it was published.

 Nf3 is normally played before Nc3 in the London system.

Mark who?

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Uhohspaghettio1 wrote:

There is no such thing as "Mark's opening". Give it over, stop spamming your site. If this opening has any name it's the Jobava. It's doubtful whether or not it deserves one though as all of these openings with early Bf4 fall under the umbrella of the London system. The London system is well-known and has often been used by many GMs at the top level including Carlsen himself. It's not like someone just invented this brand new opening.  

You seem very confused on how opening names come about. Opening names don't just come about by someone "claiming" them like claiming a piece of land by putting a flag on it. Opening names are given to them by people other than the one that used them. Usually for someone to name your opening you'll have to have several great masterpieces where the individual has used the opening to great effect and inspired others to start using it. Or sometimes if it was played a lot in one location it gets named after a city or country.   

So give over this ridiculous idea.    

 

Stupid comment. It is the Mark opening, period. Jobava started playing it AFTER Mark. London sistem???? Then the QGD with Bf4 is also the London system? Stop embarrasing yourself, poor kid.

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I looked at the so-called analysis. In all variations given there White goes for Nf3 and e3 immediately. That's a perfectly normal London System. Thousands of sample games exist.

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congrandolor wrote:
Uhohspaghettio1 wrote:

There is no such thing as "Mark's opening". Give it over, stop spamming your site. If this opening has any name it's the Jobava. It's doubtful whether or not it deserves one though as all of these openings with early Bf4 fall under the umbrella of the London system. The London system is well-known and has often been used by many GMs at the top level including Carlsen himself. It's not like someone just invented this brand new opening.  

You seem very confused on how opening names come about. Opening names don't just come about by someone "claiming" them like claiming a piece of land by putting a flag on it. Opening names are given to them by people other than the one that used them. Usually for someone to name your opening you'll have to have several great masterpieces where the individual has used the opening to great effect and inspired others to start using it. Or sometimes if it was played a lot in one location it gets named after a city or country.   

So give over this ridiculous idea.    

 

Stupid comment. It is the Mark opening, period. Jobava started playing it AFTER Mark. London sistem???? Then the QGD with Bf4 is also the London system? Stop embarrasing yourself, poor kid.

If the opening has a very early c4 then it's not really a London System. The whole point of the London system is to develop using Bf4 and without c4, otherwise it's a queen's gambit. Instead White will usually play Nc3 or c3.  

I don't know whether you're his friend, you really don't know anything about this or you're a troll but you're doing him no favours by entertaining or pretending to entertain this nonsense.