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superchef1028 wrote: I am a long time S.F. Giants fan. I also keep an eye on Tampa Bay due to the fact that their AAA club is located in my hometown (The Durham Bulls).  I hope that both of my MLB teams will make a better showing this year.

 I think you can count the Rays out now. They have shown from the very beginning that they have either 1.)no real desire to win; or 2.) no idea HOW to win. And this past off-season didnt show me anything to the contrary. They like to stick some good talent in their AAA team, which is nice for us Bulls fans, but once the guys move up, it's like they become new players, new, bad players. :-)


OSUBUCKEYE
I am telling you all right now watch out for my REDS this year!!!
OSUBUCKEYE

Ok we have got to keep this going with opening day only a few weeks away, What is it going to take to win this? Will the Red Sox run away with it all? Where are the Yankees any one care to wager how long their manager last? I am thinking maybe the All-Star game and he will be gone! The Tigers have a chance along with the Cubbies yes I said the Cubs.

Would any babseball fans out there be interested in forming a league, depending on how many we get we can play a season with playoffs.

 


RedSoxpawn
what do you mean league
OSUBUCKEYE
I was thinking something like this and this is just off the top of my head. We each pick a team that we want to play as. We form divisions depending on the amount of people that enter. We then play against each other count wins and lost our actual teams wins and lost would be counted somehow as well, Like Isaid just thinking off the top on my head................do you have any idea......................fantasize baseball with a chess tie in
RedSoxpawn

I like the idea, we need to advertise around the site


punk64

Holy Cow - 162 games of chess!


OSUBUCKEYE
No way maybe just weeky games
RedSoxpawn
what is wrong with 162 games of chess Laughing
OSUBUCKEYE

Where do I begin................lol,lol.................just a idea I had if it works it works


Fotoman

Baseball sucks. Look at Bonds, Clemens. Bunch of Cheaters and Druggies. Millions paid to players that bat at the Mendoza line. When Pete Rose cheated, it all ended. It is all about the money, no ethics, no heros, just beer and viagra commercials. And the only reason it all is played at all is for gamblers to bet on. All the games are about betting, steroids and beer. 

Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?  


Baseballfan
Fotoman wrote:

Baseball sucks. Look at Bonds, Clemens. Bunch of Cheaters and Druggies. Millions paid to players that bat at the Mendoza line. When Pete Rose cheated, it all ended. It is all about the money, no ethics, no heros, just beer and viagra commercials. And the only reason it all is played at all is for gamblers to bet on. All the games are about betting, steroids and beer. 

Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?  


 First of all, yes, there are some real scumbags in baseball. That is easy to see, but there have ALWAYS been scumbags in baseball. Ty Cobb was regarded as a complete jerk, people were afraid of him and his temper both on and off the field. Babe Ruth? a drunkard, a womanizer, and all around not nice guy. And though I have no evidence, because such evidence is impossible to obtain, I can assure you that there were guys back in the "glory days" of baseball, that put just about anything they could think of in their bodies in order to obtain an advantage over their opponents. But also, there are good guys in baseball today. Albert Pujols, by all accounts, is a good guy, and has never been accused of any type of cheating. Alex Rodriguez, when he is not being influenced by his former agent, Scott Boras, also seems to be a good guy. Why can't he be considered the Joe DiMaggio of today?

 

Secondly, I love baseball, I often watch more than 100 games a season, and parts of many many more. I have never once betted on a single game. In fact, I've never met anyone who bets on baseball games. In the US, most of the betting is on (American) football and basketball. Betting on baseball, while it does happen, is not nearly at the level of many other sports, so it must be about something more than that.

 

Lastly, can you name for me please 3 guys that are making millions and are career .200 hitters? Heck, I can't think of one, who is making millions to hit at the Mendoza line? 


RedSoxpawn
I can't think of one either
OSUBUCKEYE
Ok here is an idea..............We play one chess game a week if you win that game you get credit for the amount of games your team wins that week, if you loose the game you loose the amount of games they won..............how does that sound
OSUBUCKEYE
Hey I have no probolem at all with the money they make, if anyone of us could make that kind of money doing what we do, I beleive we would all take it in a New York Second. I can not blame the players, heck the owners are willing to pay it and us as fans are willing to pay for the tickets and the misc items to make it all happen. However I often wonder what would players like Pete Rose, Micky Mantle, Vida Blue, Tom Seaver what they would be worth in todays market. Johnny Bench the greatest catcher to ever play the game could demain and get  a blank check
Baseballfan
ketchuplover wrote: punk64 wrote:

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."

- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary (God Bless him!!!!)

 http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/  is a GREAT site re: baseball contracts.  I now know why all the little league parents are so annoying:

Total Value
The most lucrative contracts in baseball history, by total value:
Alex Rodriguez, $275,000,000 (2008-17) Alex Rodriguez, $252,000,000 (2001-10) Derek Jeter, $189,000,000 (2001-10) Manny Ramirez, $160,000,000 (2001-08) Todd Helton, $141,500,000 (2003-11) Johan Santana, $137,500,000 (2008-13) Alfonso Soriano, $136,000,000 (2007-14) Vernon Wells, $126,000,000 (2008-14) Barry Zito, $126,000,000 (2007-13) Mike Hampton, $121,000,000 (2001-08)

 Oh, and this is just the top 10!


Who is Mike Hampton?


 Starting pitcher for the Braves, he had Tommy John's surgery (ligament replacement in the elbow) and missed the entire 2007 season.

 

As far as the amount  of money they make, I have no problem with it either. They are doing a job that no one else can do. The reason that places like McDonald's can pay someon so little is that they can take basically anyone, and teach them how to be an effecient worker there. To play Major League Baseball (or any sport at the highest levels), takes talent that a person is either born with or not. It cannot be taught. Yes, players can be taught to be better, but in order to succeed at that level, there must be a certian amount of talent to begin with.


OSUBUCKEYE
Redsozpawn.................if you like the idea then lets go with it before it is to late
punk64
162 games!  Can't wait for the home and home series!
Baseballfan
Id play, but my biggest worry about this is that I play slowly, and I may not finish my games in a week.
OSUBUCKEYE
If that is the case then maybe we go to two weeks