MOST STUPID RULE : STALEMATE

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lfPatriotGames
ChessGod6003 wrote:

I agree a little. I think if one player gets another in to stalemate it should count as win/draw of 0.75 of a win instead of 0.5. This would not work for chess.com but for tournaments I think the point system should be this.

I mentioned in the other topic of awarding points for stalemate, if we are going to split the draw unevenly it should be 7/13 for the person who got stalemated, 5/13 for the person who stalemates, and 1/13 for the house (or arbitrator). That way the arbitrator would have a very small, but still possible, way to win the tournament.

That way it keeps things nice and simple.

Elmolm
Stalemate is a draw like king vs king is draw I’ve have made so many stalemates with king and queen vs king.
Stay_loose_play_7deuce
NovitiateOne wrote:
If a new player doesn’t know what stalemate is and how it works then it must be time for him to learn it. And if a new player doesn’t want to learn it, then he should be ready for a lot of heartache. It has been declared as a draw since 1807, before any of us was even born.

I was born in 1703, I remember the good old days when stalemate didn't exist

ThrillerFan
Elmolm wrote:
Stalemate is a draw like king vs king is draw I’ve have made so many stalemates with king and queen vs king.

K and Q vs K stalemates are the result of pathetic chess players.

Stalemate can be a true art. My favorite is when your king is in the corner (Say, h8) and either they have Rg7 and Pf6 or Ph7 and R anywhere on the 7th rank and you have just a rook and king. You continue to check White to eternity until he takes it and is then stalemate, known as the Eternal Rook draw.

MrDogFace
Yes. Change the rules. Opponent must sit there, unmoving, til dead.
JoHoZ12
Gaearon-vaya wrote:

stalemate makes sense

what do you want to happen instead?

I guess what I want is if i back your dude into a corner I win because i backed you in a corner lol. me and my 3 friends back you into the locker and you win that fight? nah we beat you up and take your lunch money bro who won? the people who got a free lunch if you ask me

ZBTHETREE

I think its stupid, if you cant move, you should lose!

lfPatriotGames
ZBTHETREE wrote:

I think its stupid, if you cant move, you should lose!

So something like this? White can't move so

it should be a win for black?

haveyouseencyan

I was crying about stalemate a lot a few weeks ago when I first started. I rarely encounter them now. When I do, its mainly me doing it. So yea, you will get used to it.

Just played a bot though that somehow found a stalemate that I just could not see. Such a joke lol, 30 mins, 3rd attempt to beat it. I think I have it sewn up, and boom, it found some magical stalemate to save itself.

chekagain

MOST STUPID PERSON: YOU

monkey-armory

Yeah honestly I understand that Stalemate is a "part of the game" and you need to "strategize to avoid stalemate" so on and so forth but to be honest it is quite annoying and if it was never a rule no one would miss it in an alternate reality stalemate would be called something like victory by lock-age.

monkey-armory

Yes very true.

StevetheRabbit
ojamam wrote:
NovitiateOne wrote:
If a new player doesn’t know what stalemate is and how it works then it must be time for him to learn it. And if a new player doesn’t want to learn it, then he should be ready for a lot of heartache. It has been declared as a draw since 1807, before any of us was even born.

I was born in 1703, I remember the good old days when stalemate didn't exist

Stalemate has always existed. Before 1807 it was a win for the player stalemated. Even 100 years later, not everyone knew that the rule had changed. The British Prime Minister, speaking in the House of Commons in 1915, said, "So it appears that whether we checkmate the enemy or are ourselves stalemated, we cannot win the game."

He was speaking, of course, of the trench warfare during WW1.

jetoba
monkey-armory wrote:

Yeah honestly I understand that Stalemate is a "part of the game" and you need to "strategize to avoid stalemate" so on and so forth but to be honest it is quite annoying and if it was never a rule no one would miss it in an alternate reality stalemate would be called something like victory by lock-age.

It has been a number of pages since this point was made. If you deem the stalemated player to have lost then it would be possible for a lone Black king to stalemate White in positions like the following: White Ka8, Bb8, Bc8 Rb7, Rc7, Pa7, Pb6, Pc6, Pd7 and Black moving the King to d8.

That may not be likely but you then have to realize that in FIDE a loss on time is given if the opponent of the flagging player has any possible way of winning on the board through legal moves. A player facing an opponent with a lone king can lose on time as long as either the a file or the h file (or both) have a pawn regardless of how much additional material the flagging player has, because there is the possibility of the pawn being one square from queening, the king in front of it, and the opposing lone king being two files away from the queening square and stalemating the flagging king.

Giving a lone King a chance to win on time would be a huge change to the rules.

R0L

if there's no stalemate, what happened when a king is trapped in the corner and there r no legal moves for him? its not mate cuz the king cant kill himself

ParisSpider
Yep but also gooding like stop making you lose the game and checkmate and lose points it one of the draws
monkey-armory
R0L wrote:

if there's no stalemate, what happened when a king is trapped in the corner and there r no legal moves for him? its not mate cuz the king cant kill himself


EndgameEnthusiast2357

Is white winning here?

Black is stalemated. Stalemate does not imply the stalemater is winning.

SillyCurry

i need help im so bad at chess

RealTactics960
You accidentally made it black to move. Either that or u put the king on the wrong square. Either way it’s mate in four. (But that’s stockfish mate in four, so it wouldn’t be seen by lower players.)