MOST STUPID RULE : STALEMATE

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Strangemover

People always associate stalemate with one side crushing a lone king and then blundering stalemate. It should be a win, I was crushing! Well this is just that - a blunder. The way that stalemate enriches chess is on those rare occasions when you can save a game based on the idea. I think it's one of the coolest things that can happen on a chessboard 😎

 

X_Bomb88

If the rule for stalemate doesn't exist, then what exactly do you do if there are no valid moves?

dah_happyh0ppyh0rsi3

lol bump

Anonymous_Dragon
X_Bomb88 wrote:

If the rule for stalemate doesn't exist, then what exactly do you do if there are no valid moves?

+1

jetoba
Anonymous_Dragon wrote:
X_Bomb88 wrote:

If the rule for stalemate doesn't exist, then what exactly do you do if there are no valid moves?

+1

In checkers the stalemated person loses (at least under some versions of the rules - in some versions the number and then value of each player's pieces is used to determine the winner).  In chess it is possible for a lone king to stalemate the other player so a draw seems reasonable (I detest the idea of totaling the value of each player's pieces to determine a winner).

Wits-end

This whole thread is stale mate! 

aviation18
Anonymous_Dragon wrote:
X_Bomb88 wrote:

If the rule for stalemate doesn't exist, then what exactly do you do if there are no valid moves?

+1

+1 as well. Where do you think you are supposed to move? However, I think that there should be no rating drop if your opponent is stalemated. I've seen many people on chess.com who try to play the higher rated players for a draw by repetition or stalemate. It is so annoying because when they do it will be as good as a loss if you're one move away from a checkmate. And also it's a massive rating drop.

 

Wits-end

I think the players should be forced to sit for days, months, even years without a stalemate. Until they turn to ashes and the knight says “ he chose... poorly.”

MissOlivia1978

Maybe stale mate should be called 'botched up mate' or 'stuffed it up mate' (that would be the Aussie version, lol!)

Strangemover
X_Bomb88 wrote:

If the rule for stalemate doesn't exist, then what exactly do you do if there are no valid moves?

You lose. Then in a fit of pique you take to the chess.com forums to proclaim that it is a stupid rule that doesn't make sense and that it should be a draw. 

snow

I hate when I draw from repetition. It's so dumb

Strangemover
garbagem8 wrote:

I hate when I draw from repetition. It's so dumb

Don't repeat the position then. 

Wits-end
Strangemover wrote:
garbagem8 wrote:

I hate when I draw from repetition. It's so dumb

Don't repeat the position then. 

It’s almost like you’re saying choices have consequences. 

jetoba
Strangemover wrote:
garbagem8 wrote:

I hate when I draw from repetition. It's so dumb

Don't repeat the position then. 

Or take up the game of go.

Wits-end
jetoba wrote:
Strangemover wrote:
garbagem8 wrote:

I hate when I draw from repetition. It's so dumb

Don't repeat the position then. 

Or take up the game of go.

Or roshambo. 

sfxe

chess isn't a video game

smh

 

PunchboxNET
friedmelon wrote:
AviaSharma wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:

Avia, I know what do you feel, but consider this: if you are losing and your opponent is careless and allow you to make a nice combination which ends with stalemate, then this means that your opponent probably did not play well.

Keep in mind that is it easy to give a winning position away in pawn endgames or when trying to checkmate with K + Q vs K, where a chess player has to know what he is doing. The better you get in chess, the more you will regard stalemate as an interesting part of the game.

Stalemate is valid for both players. Is the same as when playing OTB you have to move a touched figure, even if this means losing the game. This is not unfair, only the rule of the game, valid for both players.

Try to find some stalemate tactics to see how you can save your skin by scarifying material and you will begin to change your attitude.

But still.... It causes a lot of trouble

White to move (you are white)

 

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Ankur1805

You can make your own game with no draws ! At least I am fine with that rule !

 

X_Bomb88

if you get into stalemate, it's your fault.

X_Bomb88

and it can save you sometimes from what seemed like a near-checkmate