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There are many things we won't know until we try.   This is probably one of them. 

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Pikelemi wrote:
pdve wrote:

I actually knew(online) a girl who had an IQ of 165 and was atrocious at chess. Now that's puzzling.

 

Bobby Fischer had an IQ of 187.

 

You cannot just throw out a number without knowing the background of it. His IQ was in the range 180-187 at the 1958 Stanford-Binet test which is equivalent to the range 148-155 for todays Stanford-Binet test. 

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president_max wrote:
Pikelemi wrote:
pdve wrote:

I actually knew(online) a girl who had an IQ of 165 and was atrocious at chess. Now that's puzzling.

 

Bobby Fischer had an IQ of 187.

 

You cannot just throw out a number without knowing the background of it. His IQ was in the range 180-187 at the 1958 Stanford-Binet test which is equivalent to the range 148-155 for todays Stanford-Binet test. 

Yes you can.   This is chess.com!  Please respect our ways. 

 

No.

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Pikelemi wrote:
pdve wrote:

I actually knew(online) a girl who had an IQ of 165 and was atrocious at chess. Now that's puzzling.

 

Bobby Fischer had an IQ of 187.

 

You cannot just throw out a number without knowing the background of it. His IQ was in the range 180-187 at the 1958 Stanford-Binet test which is equivalent to the range 148-155 for todays Stanford-Binet test. 

Bobby Fischer had a photographic memory and read and memorized more than 4000 chess books. Now you cannot possibly say that's garden variety Mensa genius.

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Success in chess and IQ do not always match. [wish it did!]

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This test I did. I'll link it here. [https://www.iqtestforfree.net/iq-test.html]

It had all pattern recognition questions.

 

PS:It's not actually free.I mean it's free to take but for the results you have to pay 7Euros

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IQ means nothing, my IQ two years ago (I’m 15 so it’s probably improved) was 164, my highest chess.com rating is 1908, no direct relation as far as I can see if you compare it to other people.
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pdve wrote:

This test I did. I'll link it here. [https://www.iqtestforfree.net/iq-test.html]

It had all pattern recognition questions.

 

PS:It's not actually free.I mean it's free to take but for the results you have to pay 7Euros

Online IQ tests often use questions that are similar to (or stolen from) real IQ tests, but the results don't mean much, because IQ is always a percentile. For an IQ test (any IQ test) to be accurate, it has to be given to many thousands of people under controlled conditions (online is not controlled conditions, for example people can cheat, take it many times, etc).

 

A statistically significant IQ test (in other words, the only IQ tests that matter) are usually given by psychologists and might cost something like $100 USD.

Also, real IQ tests (statistically meaningful IQ tests) don't really measure beyond 160.

Stuff you see about IQs over 160 are more pop culture bullshit than anything.

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Also, just like different chess sites have different ratings, it depends on the IQ test you take. 130 on one test is not quite the same as 130 on a different test. What really matters is how many standard deviations you are away from the mean (which again, can only be determined if the test has been given to many people in a controlled setting).

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MitSud wrote:
IQ means nothing

Online they mean almost nothing.

Real tests have scientific methodology backing them up... they may not measure what most people think they do, but they're not meaningless, they have predictive value, and blah blah blah... but there's really no reason for most people to take one. I've never taken a real one.

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chess has a lot to do with gathering experience as well. I'm certainly struggling these days with my chess. I've just bought chessbase too.

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:
drmrboss wrote:

Anyone who are good at Maths, English, pattern recognition will scores 130 IQ at least.,most of them are irrelavent with chess.( except pattern recognition)

 

P.S. I will buy a good meal for 7$ though.😏

IQ is just statistics.

I think 130 is something like 1 out of 100... I'm too lazy to google it, but someone could find this in 10 seconds pretty easily.

In other words "anyone who are good . . ." is silly of you to say... unless you define "good" as "1 in 100"

What is being 1% top of people , do you think it is really  useful in life? 

The real usefullness in life is How to handle your boss or your customers who may have IQ 70., which is hard to measure with those useless IQ tests.

Let me give you example, if you do something consistently , you are very likely to be top 1%, unless you have serious mental or physical impairment.

 

For example, most IQ test, will ask you simple Trigometry , such as Car A moving 10k/h to north, Car B moving 20km/h to East, how far is those distance after 1 hour etc.  And harder ID tests may ask you more difficult maths like Calculus, Matrix, Trigonometry . After learning the question types and study those areas, you will be top 1%. ( P.S I always have IQ tests scores >130,140 in free online IQ tests, cos I was good in maths and English in academic) 

 

Will you study those advanced maths to be top 1%,? and brag to the others. In fact, the usefullnes  is only if you have your career related for mathematics. 

I have here 2000+ rating in chess or top 1% , but this is useless in life, except to brag to my friends. It is not related of being smarter than the rest.

If you do push up for 6 months, you may be able to do 100 times non stop, and may be top 1%, Is it really useful?

Even if you play Mario consistently for several years, your scores may be top 1%.

 

 

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drmrboss wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
drmrboss wrote:

Anyone who are good at Maths, English, pattern recognition will scores 130 IQ at least.,most of them are irrelavent with chess.( except pattern recognition)

 

P.S. I will buy a good meal for 7$ though.😏

IQ is just statistics.

I think 130 is something like 1 out of 100... I'm too lazy to google it, but someone could find this in 10 seconds pretty easily.

In other words "anyone who are good . . ." is silly of you to say... unless you define "good" as "1 in 100"

What is being 1% top of people , do you think it is really  useful in life? 

Let me give you example, if you do something consistently , you are very likely to be top 1%, unless you have serious mental or physical impairment.

 

For example, most IQ test, will ask you simple Trigometry , such as Car A moving 10k/h to north, Car B moving 20km/h to East, how far is those distance after 1 hour etc.  And harder ID tests may ask you more difficult maths like Calculus, Matrix, Trigonometry . After learning the question types and study those areas, you will be top 1%.

 

Will you study those advanced maths to be top 1%,? and brag to the others. In fact, the usefullnes  is only if you have your career related for mathematics. 

I have here 2000+ rating in chess or top 1% , but this is useless in life, except to brag friends. It is not related of being smarter than the rest.

If you do push up for 6 months, you may be able to do 100 times non stop, and may be top 1%, Is it really useful?

Even if you play Mario consistently for several years, your scores may be top 1%.

 

 

I didn't know IQ tests are like that. Are they really?

If so, I agree with you, that's dumb. It shouldn't rely on someone's education... but I thought they designed them so it wasn't dependent on education.

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
drmrboss wrote:

Anyone who are good at Maths, English, pattern recognition will scores 130 IQ at least.,most of them are irrelavent with chess.( except pattern recognition)

 

P.S. I will buy a good meal for 7$ though.😏

IQ is just statistics.

I think 130 is something like 1 out of 100... I'm too lazy to google it, but someone could find this in 10 seconds pretty easily.

In other words "anyone who are good . . ." is silly of you to say... unless you define "good" as "1 in 100"

What is being 1% top of people , do you think it is really  useful in life? 

Let me give you example, if you do something consistently , you are very likely to be top 1%, unless you have serious mental or physical impairment.

 

For example, most IQ test, will ask you simple Trigometry , such as Car A moving 10k/h to north, Car B moving 20km/h to East, how far is those distance after 1 hour etc.  And harder ID tests may ask you more difficult maths like Calculus, Matrix, Trigonometry . After learning the question types and study those areas, you will be top 1%.

 

Will you study those advanced maths to be top 1%,? and brag to the others. In fact, the usefullnes  is only if you have your career related for mathematics. 

I have here 2000+ rating in chess or top 1% , but this is useless in life, except to brag friends. It is not related of being smarter than the rest.

If you do push up for 6 months, you may be able to do 100 times non stop, and may be top 1%, Is it really useful?

Even if you play Mario consistently for several years, your scores may be top 1%.

 

 

I didn't know IQ tests are like that. Are they really?

If so, I agree with you, that's dumb. It shouldn't rely on someone's education... but I thought they designed them so it wasn't dependent on education.

 

drmrboss is mistaken.  Real IQ tests do not test you on trigonometry or calculus or anything of the sort.  No knowledge of math beyond the very basics of arithmetic is necessary to answer any question on a legitimate IQ test.  Whatever it is they measure, it isn't education.

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Weevil99 wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
drmrboss wrote:

Anyone who are good at Maths, English, pattern recognition will scores 130 IQ at least.,most of them are irrelavent with chess.( except pattern recognition)

 

P.S. I will buy a good meal for 7$ though.😏

IQ is just statistics.

I think 130 is something like 1 out of 100... I'm too lazy to google it, but someone could find this in 10 seconds pretty easily.

In other words "anyone who are good . . ." is silly of you to say... unless you define "good" as "1 in 100"

What is being 1% top of people , do you think it is really  useful in life? 

Let me give you example, if you do something consistently , you are very likely to be top 1%, unless you have serious mental or physical impairment.

 

For example, most IQ test, will ask you simple Trigometry , such as Car A moving 10k/h to north, Car B moving 20km/h to East, how far is those distance after 1 hour etc.  And harder ID tests may ask you more difficult maths like Calculus, Matrix, Trigonometry . After learning the question types and study those areas, you will be top 1%.

 

Will you study those advanced maths to be top 1%,? and brag to the others. In fact, the usefullnes  is only if you have your career related for mathematics. 

I have here 2000+ rating in chess or top 1% , but this is useless in life, except to brag friends. It is not related of being smarter than the rest.

If you do push up for 6 months, you may be able to do 100 times non stop, and may be top 1%, Is it really useful?

Even if you play Mario consistently for several years, your scores may be top 1%.

 

 

I didn't know IQ tests are like that. Are they really?

If so, I agree with you, that's dumb. It shouldn't rely on someone's education... but I thought they designed them so it wasn't dependent on education.

 

drmrboss is mistaken.  Real IQ tests do not test you on trigonometry or calculus or anything of the sort.  No knowledge of math beyond the very basics of arithmetic is necessary to answer any question on a legitimate IQ test.  Whatever it is they measure, it isn't education.

See those IQ tests, see basic maths, paterns.

https://www.123test.com/iq-test/

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Others ID tests may ask about English, General Knowledge about geography etc.

 

As I told you , I have done a lot of those bullshit IQ tests in my young age, because I would to be better than others which is in fact not that important in your life.

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Age, QoQ of studying, and innate ability mostly decides how good you can good.

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drmrboss wrote:

Others ID tests may ask about English, General Knowledge about geography etc.

 

As I told you , I have done a lot of those bullshit IQ tests in my young age, because I would to be better than others which is in fact not that important in your life.

But it worked out for you in the end - you're a Dr, a Mr and a boss. 

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When I said IQ means nothing, I meant objectively in relation to chess, please don’t twist my words.