my mind is blown that any chess player could be below a 1300

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Runner

I have not read all the comments above and I'm not sure anyone is interested in my opinion, but at least you, the author will get to read this.

The words I say come from a very experienced and still active chess coach from soviets time. As a chess player and freetime coach I can agree with that. To quote "Anyone can get a rating of 2000 in chess, if he wants to".
To eplain- there is a higher border you have not enough talent to break. For some it is 2600 (many hard trying GM's), for some just a title, for some less. But a border you can reach without any additional talent, if you just 'wish' to is about 2000 (it says), what es defenetly above 1300.

What does now this 'wish' means?
This wish does not mean you have to spent all your time doing chess or anything like that. It does mean, if you are a human, who is able to learn from your mistakes; try to improve yourself and are motivated in chess, then it is already enough to get a rating about 2000 (adults would need time though, but there will be still a slow improvment noticeable). You can see that by all the youth players climbing near the level before putting chess aside because of college etc. All these just stayed in chess and had mostly no coaches etc. who 'pushed' them up.

 

Unfortunatly, I even have some students myself, who are sitting below 1500 for a very long time. You may say that that would break my theory already but all these students have something in common- they don't care about chess. The biggest part is dragged by his parents and don't even like chess, so they even don't want to be stronger.

Now you can ask me- 'If it is so easy- why do I still don't have my 2000 rating?!' I can give you an answer. If you are a healthy and sane human (doesn't matter which character, culture or anything else) then 2000 is a realistic aim for you. The biggest problem should be, that your basics are not in great shape, since without learning properly at the beggining (e.g. through a school, book, coach) you either don't have any or you have a wrong understanding of it.

The solution lies already in it, you have to reconsider all that you have learned (not easy, but possible) and just fill your holes. Did you analysed your last game, searched for your faults the last game? If not, then they won't go away and you stay on the same level (means you don't WANT to get your promised rating of 2000). If yes, then you should improve at least a bit and go to your aim.
Because all you need to play like 2000 is just a healthy understanding of the centre, king safety, weak and strong fields, and some calculation abilities, that guarentee you calculate just the variations you need. Some get that by their own, some can get 1 or 2 classical books to learn that (even free if yoiu search for it). And the last thing- if you don't even know any names of good old books/authors (e.g. nimzowitsch/my system), do you still want to tell me you really questioned yourself how you can get better? (instead of just zombie-blitzing)
If you read all that you should also notice that in this article there is no word at all of mastering opening lines or learing computer variations, which is the biggest time-consume in chess.

Have a potato :)

GnrfFrtzl
Kasporov_Jr írta:
Pashakviolino wrote

"oh your mentally handicapped if it took you 4 years to reach 1500. I was already a 1400 when I was 7 years old. And I am great player, I won US scholar championships at 10 years old. That is the biggest achievement you can do. You better go and improve you're 1200 standard chess rating. I am better at chess than your" 

please stop taking what I said  to you & using it towards other people.



you came into my thread disrespecting me, so I took a shot towards you, and just you. 4 years to reach 1500 is pretty respectable, my comment was to a guy who spend 20 years reaching 900 rating.

Mate, you were blown away that people can't break 1300 in a few months, and now you're saying 4 years for 1500 is respectable? Wot.

Akatsuki64

You must simply not remember when you had a rating below 1300. I would think the majority of individuals had a rating that fluctuated below 1300. Beginner players may simply not know the rules or not have enough familiarity with them.

TitanCG
Steve212000 wrote:

Some people don't wish to study chess. They just want to play a few games once in awhile. Their perspective desrves respect too.

Indeed, thinking of others is important.

Pashakviolino
GnrfFrtzl escribió:
Kasporov_Jr írta:
Pashakviolino wrote

"oh your mentally handicapped if it took you 4 years to reach 1500. I was already a 1400 when I was 7 years old. And I am great player, I won US scholar championships at 10 years old. That is the biggest achievement you can do. You better go and improve you're 1200 standard chess rating. I am better at chess than your" 

please stop taking what I said  to you & using it towards other people.



you came into my thread disrespecting me, so I took a shot towards you, and just you. 4 years to reach 1500 is pretty respectable, my comment was to a guy who spend 20 years reaching 900 rating.

Mate, you were blown away that people can't break 1300 in a few months, and now you're saying 4 years for 1500 is respectable? Wot.

He said it only because the other guy has a higher ELO than him. And he would look extremely stupid (even more than he has looked so far) if he talks shit to someone ranked higher than him. 

Hawksteinman

I've been playing chess 4 only 4 months so my rating is...... Something..

Pashakviolino
Steve212000 escribió:

Some people don't wish to study chess. They just want to play a few games once in awhile. Their perspective desrves respect too.

"I cant understand how anyone can be so uncompetitive. I am very competitive. I am great chess player. I won scholar tournaments when I was 10 year old. You are just a 1200 lol, I am better than you"

Kasporov_Jr
Akatsuki64 wrote:

You must simply not remember when you had a rating below 1300. I would think the majority of individuals had a rating that fluctuated below 1300. Beginner players may simply not know the rules or not have enough familiarity with them.

I've never actually been below 1300 in my entire life, my very first tournament when I was 7, I went from unrated to 1400. My lowest rating ever was around 1350.

Kasporov_Jr
Pashakviolino wrote:

He said it only because the other guy has a higher ELO than him. And he would look extremely stupid (even more than he has looked so far) if he talks shit to someone ranked higher than him. 

lol you call me stupid all the time, yet you are only a 1330 in bullet/blitz, that must just make you something 1000x more stupid then. 

 

but please continue, no matter what you say I will be ranked higher than you at anything so you might as well save that energy & do something productive 

Akatsuki64
Kasporov_Jr wrote:
Akatsuki64 wrote:

You must simply not remember when you had a rating below 1300. I would think the majority of individuals had a rating that fluctuated below 1300. Beginner players may simply not know the rules or not have enough familiarity with them.

I've never actually been below 1300 in my entire life, my very first tournament when I was 7, I went from unrated to 1400. My lowest rating ever was around 1350.

Still, your mind shouldn't be blown. People start at different levels.

peloduro

Watch your manners KIDS ; At list give respect to de season ;Happy Eastern !

Pashakviolino
Kasporov_Jr escribió:
Pashakviolino wrote:

He said it only because the other guy has a higher ELO than him. And he would look extremely stupid (even more than he has looked so far) if he talks shit to someone ranked higher than him. 

lol you call me stupid all the time, yet you are only a 1330 in bullet/blitz, that must just make you something 1000x more stupid then. 

 

but please continue, no matter what you say I will be ranked higher than you at anything so you might as well save that energy & do something productive 

At anything!!!! Hahahaha, you are a funny stupid troll. 

macer75
peloduro wrote:

Watch your manners KIDS ; At list give respect to de season ;Happy Eastern !

And Western too!

Lauraaa92
0PaulReid0 escribió:

Sounds to me like someone's just stroking their own ego here? It's not that hard to believe. I have been playing for years and sometimes I beat a 1600 and lose to a 1000. But then again I do own 5 multi millon dollar business, so I guess I'll live with my inept rating....

COULD I SEND YOU A FRIEND REQUEST???

dpnorman

The OP is absolutely full of it. Just totally not acknowledging that chess is a difficult game and that just because he has a talent for chess doesn't mean he can make a thread for nothing other than making fun of low rated players. My mind is blown that anyone would take time out of their day just to be inconsiderate and obnoxious to other people online. I know of many people who are vastly more intelligent than the OP who have been playing chess for years longer than he has without achieving a 1300 rating. That doesn't make them necessarily inferior to anyone, because chess is just a game.

Radical_Drift

What the heck. Why is this still going on??

macer75
0PaulReid0 wrote:

Sounds to me like someone's just stroking their own ego here? It's not that hard to believe. I have been playing for years and sometimes I beat a 1600 and lose to a 1000. But then again I do own 5 multi millon dollar business, so I guess I'll live with my inept rating....

Do you mean you own 1 business worth 5 million, or 5 multi-million dollar businesses?

Likhit1

I think it's impossible for anyone who studies or plays chess seriously to remain at 1300.Anybody who is just doesn't take it seriously enough.This is not something to make fun of them for.

Kasporov_Jr
dpnorman wrote:

The OP is absolutely full of it. Just totally not acknowledging that chess is a difficult game and that just because he has a talent for chess doesn't mean he can make a thread for nothing other than making fun of low rated players. My mind is blown that anyone would take time out of their day just to be inconsiderate and obnoxious to other people online. I know of many people who are vastly more intelligent than the OP who have been playing chess for years longer than he has without achieving a 1300 rating. That doesn't make them necessarily inferior to anyone, because chess is just a game.

chess is rather easy when you actually study the game well instead of fooling around. no excuse why anyone should be under 1300 with proper instruction of the game for a long period of time.

 

you do not know anything about me, or what I am capable of, so if you could stop saying you know people smarter than me that would be great.

Runner

interesting that only the senceless part is remembered
It's part of the international (western) internet culture- since you don't have the time to read a long post usually you need to thank the audience that they ready though it- with a potato Tongue Out
http://zusiddiqui.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sorry.jpg%3Fw%3D519
but hey, the thread is senseless by itself (people smashing their opinions instead of debating) so it really could be the best thing you can learn here^^
Well I'm out. Good luck in progressing in chess, which is not less than just progressing in personality aswell!

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