Mythbusters: no,. There are far less possible combinations in the chess matrix than you think

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More possible ways a chess game can play out than sand in a seashore, hogwash. 

If you really think about it, the number of reasonable logical games played according to commonsense, are very few and we will soon run out of games to play. 

Next millenium, masters will reproduce exact copies of alekhine or capa or Fischer or Kasparov games.

Because no logical chess game can be played like A3 A6 h3 h6 nomsayin. 

A logical chessgame is what we are talking about. 

A silly chessgame where both sides repeatedly move their knights around the board, isn't chess it's patzerism. 

But a chessgame, which inherently is logical, can only be played out in a limited number of combinations. 

Certainly the sand on the sea shore analogy is false. 

There's over ten gazillion doublillion sand grains in the seashore and they haven't even mentioned where the seashore ends and the seabed comes into the argument. 

Anyway the number of ways a logical chessgame plays out is quite limited. 

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Jesusthefetus wrote:

More possible ways a chess game can play out than sand in a seashore, hogwash. 

If you really think about it, the number of reasonable logical games played according to commonsense, are very few and we will soon run out of games to play. 

Next millenium, masters will reproduce exact copies of alekhine or capa or Fischer or Kasparov games.

Because no logical chess game can be played like A3 A6 h3 h6 nomsayin. 

A logical chessgame is what we are talking about. 

A silly chessgame where both sides repeatedly move their knights around the board, isn't chess it's patzerism. 

But a chessgame, which inherently is logical, can only be played out in a limited number of combinations. 

Certainly the sand on the sea shore analogy is false. 

There's over ten gazillion doublillion sand grains in the seashore and they haven't even mentioned where the seashore ends and the seabed comes into the argument. 

Anyway the number of ways a logical chessgame plays out is quite limited. 

it's perfectly possible to win with 1.a3. But yes, eventually we'll run out of "original" games. But that's quite far in the future.

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Miles played 1. ... a6 against Karpov and beat him.

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Depend on which chess you are talking about though. Most chess types like this website international chess, Chinese chess,and so on, are limited in combination because they have limited number of pieces and their piece locations are predetermined before the game begin. Go chess though.......19x19 board and start with zero pieces on the board. So, the combination is pretty much close to infinity. There are total of 361 locations to place your piece on. Assuming the players don't capture piece, place more piece on empty land after capturing,etc. Each player has a (1.4^768)/((2^329)*(3.6^331)) or 361C180 ways to place their pieces on the board (each player take half the board round down). Then, we add in piece capturing/removal, and placement of new pieces to fight for land.......Yike. Grandmaster of go chess has to process much much more information than international chess grandmaster. Not that international chess is bad though...I don't even have rating pass 1500 :C

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I think Go is limited too. From what little know, people have already figured out that with perfect play, White will win 5 points. That's why in the Japanese rule, there is a 5½ points handicap for Black.

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As I say before, chess should be a bi-athlon. Western Chess and Chinese Chess. With the third repetition rule for Chinese Chess, my suggestion.

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IgorKravitz wrote:
long_quach wrote:

As I say before, chess should be a bi-athlon. Western Chess and Chinese Chess. With the third repetition rule for Chinese Chess, my suggestion.

Yes and as before everybody try to ignore you. 

I don't matter.

The idea matters.

Stupid.

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long_quach wrote:
IgorKravitz wrote:
long_quach wrote:

As I say before, chess should be a bi-athlon. Western Chess and Chinese Chess. With the third repetition rule for Chinese Chess, my suggestion.

Yes and as before everybody try to ignore you. 

I don't matter.

The idea matters.

Stupid.

And it's not even my idea.

The idea is already in the Triathlon, Decathlon, Pentathlon, Biathlon.

Stupid.

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IgorKravitz wrote:
blueemu wrote:

Miles played 1. ... a6 against Karpov and beat him.

Iogr have chess database. Love to see Tony Miles games in SCID. He is like Morphy!

Nobody is like Morphy. Not even Morphy is like Morphy. 

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There are millions of games played on chess.com every day, and except for trap mates, practically all of them are unique. This post is silly.
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NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
There are millions of games played on chess.com every day, and except for trap mates, practically all of them are unique. This post is silly.

Millions of games perhaps but are all of those games logical and sound?

And are there only millions of grains of sand on the seashore? For the OP draws a parallel between sand on the seashore and possible chess games. 

No comparison 

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For a game to be logical and sound it ought to follow the rules of chess theory tactics strategy and material value. Otherwise it don't count.