Nepo - it's just embarrassing for the game now.

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Laskersnephew

"I think people who are pretending to be surprised by mistakes made at high levels of competition are very new to how high level competition works. It's almost as if they have never seen a high level competition before"

The people screaming the loudest have never been and never will be involved is any high level of competition. They are low level people

PhiRev

I'm not honestly sure that Nepo's ...b5 move was 100% blunder, and it makes me wonder how much of it was the result of Nepo lashing out in frustration after being pushed to passively defend for a number of moves after Carlsen found a great way to play against his ...h5 novelty. Nepo might have kind of seen it at the edges of his awareness, but may have simply refused to consider the consequences, as he got so fed up defending such a passive position and lashed out, consequences be damned. Maybe he didn't want to even consider how passive his position would end up being after ...b5

One thing is certain:  Carlsen managed to massively frustrate him, and it was Carlsen who sacrificed a pawn in game 1 in his own "Magnus Attack" against Ruy Lopez. Yet Carlsen, seemed to have gotten away with his pawn sacrificies in a few games, so why not Nepo?

Ubik42
“If there is a blunder in a World Championship match, then the match is obviously fixed” - Bobby Fischer in an interview immediately following Fischer/Spassky game #1.
nighteyes1234
IMKeto wrote:

"Point being, nepo has absolutely no excuse for making blunders ..."

Of course he does...he is human.  And none of us are perfect...no matter how much some of us want to believe they are.

 

You missed a cool moment. BTW, hes not nearly  as soft.

 

 

Ubik42
Fischer denied the rumors that Spassky passed him a very stuffed looking envelope immediately before the first game.
IMKeto
nighteyes1234 wrote:
IMKeto wrote:

"Point being, nepo has absolutely no excuse for making blunders ..."

Of course he does...he is human.  And none of us are perfect...no matter how much some of us want to believe they are.

 

You missed a cool moment. BTW, hes not nearly  as soft.

 

 

I miss a lot of things...Im not a GM :-)

PhiRev
Ubik42 wrote:
“If there is a blunder in a World Championship match, then the match is obviously fixed” - Bobby Fischer in an interview immediately following Fischer/Spassky game #1.

Fischer was being really silly and immature after that game. He played very well with black pieces up until his bishop-captures-at-h2-blunder, and he had a relatively pleasant game. I doubt this would have been more than a draw, but Fischer wanted more, made a mistake and lost and then got bitter, conspiratorial and juvenile when things didn't go his way.

Ubik42
I was kidding about the interview quote.

But of course later he made those accusations against Kasparov/Karpov, that the games were “pre-arranged”.

Descent into paranoia.
PhiRev
Ubik42 wrote:
I was kidding about the interview quote.

But of course later he made those accusations against Kasparov/Karpov, that the games were “pre-arranged”.

Descent into paranoia.

Understood happy.png. But then, Fischer was a no-show for game 2 after losing game 1, and he would have easily forfeited the whole match as he insisted on not playing the game 3 in the main room. Had Spassky not agreed to play the game 3 in the back room, as Fischer proposed, the match would have most likely been forfeited by Fischer. The Soviets were mad as Hell at Spassky for allowing the Fischer to stay in the match.

And yes, the paranoia came later, but the roots of his problems could be clearly seen here. I honestly doubt Fischer would have forfeited game #2 had his bishop sacrifice in game #1 actually worked. Fischer was terrified of losing, and it's probably what motivated him to be that good. But the prospect of possibly losing to Karpov in 1975 was too much for him. And maybe he wouldn't even lose, but the very idea of losing and no longer being #1 I think paralyzed Fischer.

ChessNerd49
Kartikeya, the only reason you have the guts to diss Nepo, and the only reason you ‘see’ any chess puzzles or ideas is because you have an engine, which you use to act like you know what you’re talking about. You say these blunders aren’t acceptable when really it is your engine talking. You will never know what it is like to play top level chess, but yet you have the guts to diss people, simply because your engine tells you to. I doubt you would have seen any of the ideas Nepo missed, and yet you say a 1500 player wouldn’t have made the blunder. The only reason you wouldn’t make the exact same blunder is because you have an engine. Don’t try and diss people, simply because you have an engine (the players don’t have an engine during the match, in case you didn’t know).
snoozyman
It’s like dissing someone on Jeopardy or other gameshows because they got a wrong answer….while you’re sitting comfortable at home while using Google. Oh the hypocrisy lol
IMKeto

Capablanca's quote should be updated for today's engine GM:

"Chess engines should be used as we use glasses: to assist the sight, although some players make use of them as if they thought they conferred sight."

themaskedbishop

>I heard a version “Those who can’t, teach. Those who can’t teach, administrate. Those who can’t administrate, run for office. “<

And those who can't run for office, post on chess.com forums. 

themaskedbishop

The best takeaway from all of this is that in a few more days, we don't have to talk about Nepo and his hapless chess play anymore - we can move on and argue over just who, if anyone, can take the Magasaurus Rex down. 

He's looking pretty unstoppable.  Kasparov was also unbeatable in his prime, although most of his glory-day matches were against the same player, Karpov.  Gazza then defeated the under-qualified Short in that PGA spite match, and later the still wet-behind-the-ears Anand in the even worse event at the Twin Towers...before finally losing to Kramnik after reunification and the return of stronger (I.e. Russian) opponents.

Carlsen has disposed of three different challengers in a row with ease, all supposedly the second-best in the world according to the qualifiers, and we know he can handle Nakamura and So. Who's left?  

lfPatriotGames
snoozyman wrote:
It’s like dissing someone on Jeopardy or other gameshows because they got a wrong answer….while you’re sitting comfortable at home while using Google. Oh the hypocrisy lol

I guess it makes us realize just how bad these 2800 rated losers really are. We have a number of 1400 rated players here who can easily find the obvious 16 move combination that wins a pawn. I don't know how either Carlsen or Nepo can sleep at night knowing the real talent lies with chess.com forum posters. 

themaskedbishop

>We have a number of 1400 rated players here who can easily find the obvious 16 move combination that wins a pawn<

No, but you have a number of 1400 rated players here who wouldn't hang a bishop with that much time on the clock. 

snoozyman
Obvious troll has never been in a real tournament, obviously…
StormCentre3
themaskedbishop wrote:

>We have a number of 1400 rated players here who can easily find the obvious 16 move combination that wins a pawn<

No, but you have a number of 1400 rated players here who wouldn't hang a bishop with that much time on the clock. 

No. What we have here are a few low level trolls seeking negative attention - lead by the OP.

snoozyman
OP is obviously a troll that loves getting fed….You know what they say, don’t feed the trolls…
snoozyman
He acts like 1400 never makes mistakes, what an ignorant troll…