Nepo - it's just embarrassing for the game now.

I wish i knew as much about chess as so many here think they know.

And that's a very fair point, but it's also fair to point out that all those lines where Black's pawn is left on b7 "en prise" for White to take are not all that thematically different from Najdorf's poisoned pawn variation, where Black just knows that there may be at least some mild consequences to him playing that Qxb2. So, in this case, even those 1400 players have enough games behind them to deduce that there could be some "pushback" against them capturing on b7. In some positions, there is usually a rook that goes on b8 that attacks the offending piece and then retaliates and captures on b2. In this scenario, it was harder to see, of course. And, honestly, a lot of times, it's not even just the player's strength that determines whether you see it or not. I'm very convinced that some of us who are "positional chickens" are much more likely to see ...c6. The aggressive players like Nepo are just as likely to see this, but are more psychologically wired not to. Otherwise, they wouldn't be aggressive players by definition.

>You know what they say, don’t feed the trolls…<

Says the Snooze, who has been heartily posting every 20 minutes for days now, shoveling out troll feed like there's no tomorrow

"I wish i knew as much about chess as so many here think they know."

It's not what you KNOW, it's what you POST.  Please don't come to chess.com forums to learn anything. 

One last troll food for you @themaskedbishop

If you can play like this I'll take back everything I said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnJeLAMbjE&ab_channel=Chess.com

>If you can play like this I'll take back everything I said.<

Unfortunately it's been made clear on this forum that unless you are GM, you are not qualified nor entitled to comment on the play of other GMs.  Therefore, neither you nor I are allowed comment on these so-called brilliancies, since we are not GMs.

You may THINK they are brilliant but you don't know...you're not a GM.  For all you know these moves are stinkaroos.  Welcome to the logic of this thread!

I learned that longgggggg ago.

I dont come here for the chess, learning, or bonding.  Im here for entertainment.

Release the chimps!

If it's any consolation, it shouldn't be embarrassing for long.

I think that Nepo is just overwhelmed by the whole thing especially coming off that 8hr loss. 

man i gotta get my hands on one of those

mine also sucks but it moves slow

Translation: yes, he's human and we all make mistakes, but acting human during a WC is unforgivable.

Sorry -- makes no sense.

BTW, I might point out, this schedule is grueling.  "Back in the day" they played 3 games per week (with a max of 5 hours, then an adjournment).  This is 5 games per week, with no time limit (as far as I know) on how long it can be.  That 8-hour game took a lot out of them.  Carlson managed.  Nepo didn't.  He's human.

@themaskedbishop

I didn't say I was a GM did I??? I'm just playing by YOUR OWN RULES. Like I said, what comes around goes around, so it's our turn to criticize you. By the way, all you're  doing is textbook gaslighting, a simple technique that narcissists and pathetic trolls do. 

P.S. I didn't make the video, a GM by the name of Simon Williams did. 

Have some more troll food, eat it while its hot.

Of course you are allowed to comment on the games and the match.  And I think as long as people keep in mind that someone rated 1300 online can by all means have an opinion.  But that doesn't make it fact.  If someone ants to complain about the quality of play?  Go ahead.  Again its your opinion.  None of us are there.  None of us are anywhere remotely good enough to be there playing.  None of us can even start to understand what it takes to play at that level. 

So bash Nepo all you want...that is your right.  Everyone else just needs to understand where its coming from and by whom.

As for "entitlement"?  If you signed up to join the site, you are entitled to post your opinions.  As long as people keep in mind that its an opinion, and they follow the site rules?   No harm no foul. 

But when opinion starts wondering into "fact" that's when their is a problem. 

"But when opinion starts wondering into "fact" that's when their is a problem. "

Exactly

we want decisive games where the mistakes are deep and/or complicated like something out of an Ivanchuk or Rapport game,  Not guess the blunder for Ben Finegold's class.

i think wanting less draws shoudnt amount to, "i will settle for anything  else".

Like sports, writing, acting, or any other endeavor, just because an athlete/writer/actor is miles better than their critic, doesn't mean they are immune from criticism. In my mind, that is kind of what makes criticism acceptable.

If I pay my toddler to fix a toilet, and he fails, it wouldn't make much sense to say anything. But if I pay a master plumber to do the same thing for the same result, well that is a different story.

Nepo is one of the greatest players on Earth, but right now his play is below GM level (if you take his word for it). I don't think that is embarrassing for the game like the original poster, but it is definitely a subpar performance for what was expected of a WC challenger. Feel for the guy, and kind of hope he can claim a win in the match. 

Anyone who says that "even 1400s" wouldn't make a blunder like that have clearly NEVER played in a tournament. I've seen far better players play far worse moves.

Most regular normal people work 8 hours every day for 5 days a week. People can have "bad" days at their job but then have to go back the next day and have to put on a smile and pretend like nothing happened.

And before you say that I don't have real life chess experience, I have played multiple rated tournaments with 3 rounds of 4+ hour games in one day. By the last round I am dead, thirsty, hungry, tired, want to lie down on a soft bed, but I still play.... not for money but for pride.

Nepo had one bad day at the office and instead of giving himself a fresh new start he decided to plunge himself deeper into the abyss.

Believe it or not, he will get paid $800K (or three quarters of a million dollars) for this terrible match performance. He should at least make more of an effort to deserve that prize. And, BTW, it was all thanks to Fischer that Carlsen and other players like him are making that sort of money in 2021. Thanks to his "unreasonable" demands, he paved the way for professional chess. The Soviets were perfectly fine playing for peanuts.

Indeed.  Even in world championship matches.

See, e.g., https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-7-most-shocking-world-championship-blunders , written in 2016, btw, asking about a Magnus major blunder.

Some of them are *really* obvious.