Nepo - it's just embarrassing for the game now.

OTB chess teaches just that.  manners, sportsmanship, respect, etc.  Sadly its when people get online and they are able to be anonymous is when peoples true nature shines through. 

You want to know what someone is really like?  See how they act online.

like s/o's worried ??...they have a dream life when u see that 80% of the worlds pop is living on less than $10/day. 50% is living on less than $2/day !!

Magnus the Great

50% of the world is 4 billion ppl.

4 billion ppl is 80,000 SPORT STADIUMS filled up w/ 50,000 ppl each.

iows halfa the world is dead broke living day to day.

...and s/o wants me to extend empathy for another who is 'comfortable' ??

get the he!! outta me !

Well put.  Thanks for writing this.

Stomping on a man who just had his lifelong dream crushed is immature, insecure, and/or cruel.  Those folks should look into themselves and recognize what's going on.

Secondly, Ian was amazing during the Candidates.  Putting down somebody who won the Candidates, and who flirted with 2800, just a few months ago is utterly ridiculous.

You just need to consider the sources.  Its like getting mad at the retarded kid.  He doesnt know any better.

Oh, it's definitely disappointing. But to call it "embarrassing" or to say that he's bad at/for chess is completely untrue.

That's fair.  I would also add: Nepo's play in games 1-6 was terrific.  Game 6, to state the obvious, apparently broke him and he couldn't get his mojo back.  He's human.

That was my observation, too. It feels like it was more of an emotional loss than a loss due to inferior abilities. These guys may be top GM's, but the same human psychology still applies to them. The psychology of losing streaks can never be underestimated. There was an interview in which Carlsen mentioned some of the practice games he played with Nepo years ago, and how Nepo would play really well, but once he fell in a rut, he'd literally lose game after game in a row.  I thought that Magnus was perhaps bragging a bit, but now I see that he was speaking the truth. I honestly think Nepo needs a really good sports psychologist to work with, and if he has one already, he needs a new one ASAP.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/nov/24/magnus-carlsen-the-big-advantage-is-that-i-am-the-better-chess-player

When Carlsen is asked about the importance of momentum in chess, and his opponent’s tendency to sometimes go on tilt after a bad defeat, he nods his head. “It remains to be seen, of course, if Ian will be more resilient than he has been in the past if he is down,” he says, smiling. “Hopefully I can put him in that situation. That will be my main achievement.”

Also, yes, I understand that the Italian opening has undergone a reneissance over the last several years, and lots of new ideas have been found, but deep down, it just feels that the opening is far more comfortable for Black than many others. Sure it helps if you're Magnus Carlsen, of course, but even if you're not, it's hard for White to achieve truly winning positions in those, unless they are rated 100+ over their opponent.

I think Nepo did a really good job with Ruy Lopez with White actually. But, closed Ruy is another one of those openings that gives White such minimal advantages and a notoriously underdeveloped queenside that is just open for exploitation. It feels like Marshall attack and now the new "Magnus attack" (...Na5 move in game 1) are sort of like Black's been trying to say to White "hey, no offense, but your opening kind of sucks!" for decades now.

Ian didn't deliberately let Magnus win.  Magnus was very accurate in his psychological breakdown of his opponents tendencies in certain situations and tried to create those circumstances that would be most beneficial.  There was the strategy on the board and the psychological strategy. 

>Stomping on a man who just had his lifelong dream crushed<

Nobody "stomped" on anyone.  If we think Nepo is reading these forums, then our vanity is beyond repair.  This is a chess.com chat board and criticism of anyone's play, patzer or GM, is fair game.  If Nepo *is* reading them, he understands far better than all of us what it means to be a professional in the world of competitive sports. 

Nepo played terribly in the last half of the match, committing blunder after blunder, leaving FIDE announcers to choke over their own words as they tried to explain to the world why this was happening.  All sorts of reasons were put out, some of them far more insulting to Nepo than anything on this board, such as questioning the state of his mental health or his private life.  Here, criticism was thankfully limited to the moves - some of which were hugely bad and caused him to lose game after game.  

I can guarantee that Nepo has been far harsher on himself than any "stomping" going on here. What is telling is how starry-eyed a lot of chess fans are, and it's indicative of how regressed the culture of our sport/game still is, compared to ones with which we'd like to be associated.  If pro golfer Nepo was slamming balls into the stands, he would be hugely criticized for it. If pro tennis player Nepo was whapping his serves onto the back fence, he would be roundly thrashed.  Nothing has been said here that shouldn't have been said, other than the usual insults hurled by posters at other posters with whom they don't agree.

TMB

It's not "low level trolling", it is just stating a fact and saying things clearly and bluntly. While the world needs people like you who like to sugar coat everything and throw fake "respect everyone and the game of chess and positive attitude!!" around, the world also needs people who say things as they are and are very blunt about it. 

One more thing, we are not picking on a helpless child or a puppy, we are picking on a millionaire who made horrible moves game after game, didn't seem to care at all that he lost given how cheerful he was in the press conference and had the full russian regime behind him to help him win. He ain't no little kid who is getting bullied.

It's a fact that Ian's play was an absolute embarrassment to the world chess championship event.

As for all the "YoU guYs aRe pATzerS!!!11"  people, even nakamura said that this was the worst world championship event ever and that blunder after blunder was very disappointing.

"it's a fact that Ian's play was an absolute embarrassment to the world chess championship event".

Really? Prove it. 

Facts are provable. They don't care about opinions. If you are personally embarrassed, that's on you. 

In one press conference Ian described his blunder as "below GM level"

Everyone in the top 5 were GM level as young teenagers.

So basically we have a professional adult saying he preformed as badly as a child in the flagship event of his chosen profession... that's pretty much the definition of embarrassment.

Well then there is a very, very long way to go before it reaches "embarrassment". Examples have already been given of other competitions, like golf, where world class players miss a two inch putt. People who have NEVER played golf before can do better than that. Any chance Ians mistakes are on the same level as someone who has never played chess before?