Nigel Short: Women's brains not chess brains
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@SheridanJupp
BTW, thanks for bringing up Josh Waitzkin. I knew the name because of the movie but I didn't know after chess he went into MA. I picked up his book on learning, and have come away with a lot of new ideas for teaching, kids especially. (I assistant teach so I found it very helpful.) I have had some chess kids in my classes, and to connect the two through the broader spectrum of the learning process was great.
@ njeznisport
Unless he just an enormous troll, and even if he is, no one can know what compelled him to say what he did. :) I'm sure he doesn't even think about it much,
I concur.
It's all about publicity. Polgar devastated him few times.
Maybe we could just calm a bit?
May 11, 2015
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#1446
Asked about his thoughts on the lack of women competing in chess, Short, 49, said: “Why should they function in the same way? I don’t have the slightest problem in acknowledging that my wife possesses a much higher degree of emotional intelligence than I do.
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What I find disturbing w/ this response is that it's almost as tho' he's taking emotional intelligence and seeing it as a handicap for world class chess play. Is it ? Well, IDK. But, for me, there's lotsa men out there who are emotional 'geniuses'. Way smarter than many women.
kek
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
Asked about his thoughts on the lack of women competing in chess, Short, 49, said: “Why should they function in the same way? I don’t have the slightest problem in acknowledging that my wife possesses a much higher degree of emotional intelligence than I do.
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What I find disturbing w/ this response is that it's almost as tho' he's taking emotional intelligence and seeing it as a handicap for world class chess play. Is it ? Well, IDK. But, for me, there's lotsa men out there who are emotional 'geniuses'. Way smarter than many women.
I must say, talk about turning a compliment into an insult. I mean, I think there are worse ways to insult a person than, well, complimenting them. Goodness, so if someone says I'm good at chess, is that their way of saying I'm bad at everything that isn't chess? Guess we have to list everything we like about a person every time we compliment -- sure will take much longer.
I mean, sure, theoretically, Nigel is thinking hehe, I gave a nice compliment so now they'll never know my compliment was actually an insult! It's just so damn cynical to assume that though -- out of all ways to try to insult a person, making a compliment is one of the most ineffective ways to carry that message. We just assume the absolute worst about people, taking the risk that we are assuming awful things that aren't even true.
Maybe the overall article sucked, I don't know, but I'm not sure removing a compliment would have made it much better.
trysts wrote:
Yes, free will exists. It's self-evident. Every social justice system is based upon it. The entire idea of a "self", and an "autonamous individual" is based upon it. And to believe otherwise opens the door to fate, predetermination, gods, and any other form of mysticism one could imagine. To not believe in free will is to really believe that no one is responsible for their own actions.
*that was my five minutes*:)
Are you sure it wasn't more like one minute? :)
trysts wrote:
Azukikuru wrote:
trysts wrote:
Azukikuru wrote:
What do you mean by "besting"?
Judit Polgar was the youngest International Master in history at the time she became one--two years younger than Kasparov or Fischer. She was the youngest Grandmaster in history at the time she became one. That's what I mean by "besting".
I'm not debating that. In fact, I proved it in my analysis (and showed the relevant graph in the post that you just quoted) that Polgar was an early bloomer (as is Yifan). The problem is that she didn't keep it up. As far as I know, the studies about girls maturing faster than boys have gained wide acceptance, even though they do indicate a difference in the development of cognitive abilities in the two sexes. What is much less accepted, or even speculated, is what happens after the boys catch up.
Anyway, as I understand it, the actual debate centers around the top-rated players, who are all male and past the age where girl prodigies such as Judit Polgar or Hou Yifan dominate.
I don't think there is any debate.
I think that's really arrogant to say.
power_2_the_people wrote:
Masamune314 wrote:
power_2_the_people wrote:
and start here: free will is a fantasy, we're all bound together
There is a cause and effect web that is there. It's only philosophically significant though. Practically speaking we can only live like there is free will. That is the conclusion I have come to. The cause effect web of the world is too big for any one human to comprehend. I think it always will be.
the cause and effect web is the deterministic universe so to speak . and it can be seen as a incompatible with free will. but it is not according to Daniel Dennet the author i've quoted. don't get me wrong i'm not an expert on anything. i'm just a ''five minutes to think about something'' kind of guy
Well, indeed, that explains why you hold the belief you hold :)
http://www.thelocal.no/20150511/video-6-year-old-norways-new-chess-prodigy
New, improved Polgar? 
God dammit beating a GM at age of 6 and less than a year of playing... That's amazing!
massive!
This thread was declared dead about 1000 posts ago!
it's the zombie phase.
(Coz dis iz trilllllla!!)
May 11, 2015
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#1456
Elubas wrote:
trysts wrote:
Yes, free will exists. It's self-evident. Every social justice system is based upon it. The entire idea of a "self", and an "autonamous individual" is based upon it. And to believe otherwise opens the door to fate, predetermination, gods, and any other form of mysticism one could imagine. To not believe in free will is to really believe that no one is responsible for their own actions.
*that was my five minutes*:)
Are you sure it wasn't more like one minute? :)
It actually took me ten minutes to write that:)
May 11, 2015
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#1457
Elubas wrote:
trysts wrote:
I don't think there is any debate.
I think that's really arrogant to say.
That's debatable;)
Tonight I got smashed in the mouth by a white belt with a bokken, so I'm blaming it on the Cabrian explosion. (Don't ask me to draw a flow chart.) Free will my left foot.
Hehe. That's something else