Nigel Short: Women's brains not chess brains

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Bonny-Rotten

thread hijack ..... success!!!

SheridanJupp

Beautiful quote by Simone Weil.

NewArdweaden
Azukikuru wrote:
NewArdweaden wrote:

I think nobody made a big deal out of it. But beating a GM at the age of 6 is still impressive and promising.

That it is, surely. I think SheridanJupp was already making her the next world champion, but I think we should wait another 10-15 years and see what happens.

True, you can never know when they'll hit a plateau. I too wouldn't be that optimistic. Laughing

SheridanJupp

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

Masamune314

You can lead a cat to a bath, but you'll probably end up with scratch marks on your face.

SheridanJupp

Cool I'm a real cat person - Picky about whom I love, easy to satisfy (food, shelter and a bosom for a pillow) and curious Smile (eh.... boozem is something else Surprised)

Raspberry_Yoghurt
power_2_the_people wrote:

its a number games. if you have more girls playing chess you'll have more girls being good at it while if the percentage is 10% less girls or 100% less girls that play chess there will be very few who excell at it, especially if there is an environment as the one Nigel tries to create. it is sad because women chess players, which is already quite a small number, quit because they feel uncomfortable. they just feel disgusted by this type of sexist and demeaning comments.

Frank Zappa once got accused of "corrupting America's Youth" by Nancy Reagan. He reacted by making a song about brushing teeth and announced "Thank's to me, America's youth has cleaner theath. They do everything I say"

You think Nigel Short could also ensure the female chessplayers in the world would have cleaner teeth? I mean, they do everything he says, he can like clock his finger and then all female chessplayers do as he wants, that's a proven fact!

Masamune314

I'd still like to have a maneuvering a car out of the garage competition with him.

Masamune314

I wonder how you would set up a social intelligence contest.

trysts

You have a bunch of people in a room. You let Nigel Short walk in. Your social intelligence score will be rated by how quickly you leave the roomWink

Masamune314

Wait, wait: Social intelligence, garage maneuvering, introspective essay, poetry, shuriken throwing (scratch that, probably illegal in Britain). Or, to equal the odds, chess boxing. But, as the Wu-Tang once said, it's a mystery. :(

Masamune314

trysts wrote:

You have a bunch of people in a room. You let Nigel Short walk in. Your social intelligence score will be rated by how quickly you leave the room

Ooooh. Good one.

Masamune314

Actually, I wonder what the rankings would look like if the top young chess players did chess boxing? It is indeed a problem for us to probosculate upon.

Raspberry_Yoghurt
electricpawn wrote:

When one considers the strong response to Nigel's remarks among men, and since the use of statistics has been discussed, it would be interesting to see what traits are most prominent among this subset of individuals who are so adament about women's brains not being hardwired for chess.  

For example, what percentage of women would consider these men desirable sex partners? Do these men bear a resentment toward women in general because they had domineering mothers? Absent mothers who never displayed any love or affection for them?

Are these men athletic, or were they always the last selected for dodgeball teams in gym class? I think a major university should do some research on this subject.

This is a typical example of the loosing side of a discussion shiftting the nucleus of the debate from arguments to ad hominem stuff and jokes and such.

Masamune314

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Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

electricpawn wrote:

When one considers the strong response to Nigel's remarks among men, and since the use of statistics has been discussed, it would be interesting to see what traits are most prominent among this subset of individuals who are so adament about women's brains not being hardwired for chess.  

For example, what percentage of women would consider these men desirable sex partners? Do these men bear a resentment toward women in general because they had domineering mothers? Absent miothers who never displayed any love or affection for them?

Are these men athletic, or were they always the last selected for dodgeball teams in gym class? I think a major university should do some research on this subject.

This is a typical example of the loosing side of a discussion shiftting the nucleus of the debate from arguments to ad hominem stuff and jokes and such.

Well, my stuff's just because I don't have much more to say about it, so, eh...it's fun to think up a contest to test all areas of intelligence combined. just a thought experiment.

Masamune314

This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill

Fifteen percent concentrated power of will

Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain

And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

SheridanJupp

SheridanJupp

haha. I'm stupid!

SheridanJupp

Anyway, there's a good chance that in a couple of decades, more women will be among the top 100, perhaps even top 30 of best chess players as more and more young children develop autism and it tends to happen to boys more often (boys are 5 times more likely to develop autism) than girls.

"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brianwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."

Aldous Huxley.

SheridanJupp

We should drink together. Hand me a glass of your delicious beverage :-)

Oh well, I guess you'll drink alone Undecided