Get lost!
No point for a draw !
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Jun 22, 2019
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#4
If you re as stubborn as I am create another game w/ dif rules & parameters.
finnsteur wrote:
I propose a radical solution to the draw problem at the top level.
Win : 1 point
Draw : 0 point
Loss : 0 point
Simple and effective. If you want to win a tournament you got to win games.
If you're above the field you can't relax and make draw until the end.
And you would say : "Why on earth would players fight for a draw in difficult position then ?"
Simple, they would do it so that their opponent wouldn't gain point either. They would think of the tournament as a whole and make sure no one would clim up the point ladder before them.
And you would say : "Ok but in what concrete way would that incentivise them to win and take more risk ? You're naive the problem is that they're all at the same level." I would answer simply : They would know that a loss and a draw are the same. For instance let's say that in a tournament everyone stay at 0 point for the first 2 round (cause no one managed to win yet) They would know that even if they take immense risk and lose they would stay at 0 point with the rest ! That's the trick. Everyone with a chance to win, knowing that the rest of the field will play conservitavely to keep their opponent down with them would risk it all to win.
incorrect
streaks give you more points
plus that rule would make more people cry in chess
@bishoboo
baconandeggz wrote:
How bout if you lose you lose a point
more crying
Jun 22, 2019
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#10
finnsteur wrote:
For instance let's say that in a tournament everyone stay at 0 point for the first 2 round (cause no one managed to win yet)
It is impossible to have everyone at 0 points, because with every loser comes a winner. If a player got 0 points in a round, his opponent would have 1.
AyushMChessMator wrote:
finnsteur wrote:
For instance let's say that in a tournament everyone stay at 0 point for the first 2 round (cause no one managed to win yet)
It is impossible to have everyone at 0 points, because with every loser comes a winner. If a player got 0 points in a round, his opponent would have 1.
according, to his/her new rule if all draws happen then everyone might have 0 points for the whole tournament
Jun 22, 2019
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#12
PalmRace, indeed. We could have tournaments where everyone wins, or loses?
No, Draws have to count for something and 1/2 point seems fair. My feeble intellect can't come up with a better suggestion. But, hey, keep trying . . .
Jun 22, 2019
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#14
Better solution is:
Win : 3. points
Draw : 1. point
Loss : 0 point
They do it in other sport s and it makes you play to win.
DENVER
palmRace a écrit :
AyushMChessMator wrote:
finnsteur wrote:
For instance let's say that in a tournament everyone stay at 0 point for the first 2 round (cause no one managed to win yet)
It is impossible to have everyone at 0 points, because with every loser comes a winner. If a player got 0 points in a round, his opponent would have 1.
according, to his/her new rule if all draws happen then everyone might have 0 points for the whole tournament
And that's fair ! I hope someone would try to win even by taking enormous risk at some point !
Don't worry this rule would only apply in top tournament. Nothing change for the rest of us.
They're already trying armageddon why not try this simple solution ?
And you don't get nothing when you draw you get to keep your opponent down with you.
And when a player with lots of points would play with a player with not point at all he would be able to play with no fear to lose at all since giving his opponent points would almost mean nothing !
And finally the 1 point / 3 point system was tried once ! it didn't work ! still too much draw !
Lol I'm a conservative. What was that for ?
Whatever. I don't see where this idea would encourage draw.
See a comparison of two player points in the new system and the old system :
Player A : 3 win 6 draw Old system : 6 point New system : 3 point
Player B : 4 win 5 loss Old system : 4 point New system : 4 point
You see the new system ecourage taking risk. Being able to keep draing doesn't mean anything anymore. The one on top at the end is the one who won the most game. Period.
Of course it would'nt encourage draw. If you have any counter argument I'm all ears.
Jun 24, 2019
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#18
The stupidity in not awarding a draw. Insufficient material equalling a loss is pretty dumb point-wise. I prefer the concept of Armageddon.
this makes no sense to me, with your new system a lose is as good/bad as a draw which is incorrect. at least in my opinion it would be very stupid to have a winner who has lost more games than he/she won.
I propose a radical solution to the draw problem at the top level.
Win : 1 point
Draw : 0 point
Loss : 0 point
Simple and effective. If you want to win a tournament you got to win games.
If you're above the field you can't relax and make draw until the end.
And you would say : "Why on earth would players fight for a draw in difficult position then ?"
Simple, they would do it so that their opponent wouldn't gain point either. They would think of the tournament as a whole and make sure no one would clim up the point ladder before them.
And you would say : "Ok but in what concrete way would that incentivise them to win and take more risk ? You're naive the problem is that they're all at the same level." I would answer simply : They would know that a loss and a draw are the same. For instance let's say that in a tournament everyone stay at 0 point for the first 2 round (cause no one managed to win yet) They would know that even if they take immense risk and lose they would stay at 0 point with the rest ! That's the trick. Everyone with a chance to win, knowing that the rest of the field will play conservitavely to keep their opponent down with them would risk it all to win.