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All i hear is someone complaining about people not resigning because he has stalemated in a completely won position before. Never give up.

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1e4c51-0 wrote:

Unless you are literally 100% sure you've lost, don't resign.

99% is not 100. Remember that.

Percentages are a poor way to represent one's assessment of a chess position, especially for people rated <2000.  Exactly what would constitute the difference between a 75% chance to win and an 85% chance to win? wink.png

The question is qualitative.  Do you have legitimate counterplay?  Fine, play on.  Is your position completely out of gas?  Are you going to have to rely on a serious blunder from an opponent that is unlikely to make one at their demonstrated skill level?  Then resign, and play another game.  If you have a possible swindle in the form of sacrifice for a perpetual check or the like, by all means go for it.  If your idea of a "swindle" is to keep moving your lone king around and hope your opponents stalemate you with their Q+R, then you're just being an annoying dweeb...at *least* as annoying as the players that will promote 3-4 queens and try to embarrass you for not conceding a lost game.

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SNUDOO wrote:
TheCalculatorKid wrote:

As @btickler said this debate rages on for eternity and I already won the debate on a previous thread. Quitting guarantees a loss. Playing on gives you a chance.

is this small "chance" worth the time though? That's the other side. Most of the time, when you resign in a losing position you can use that time to play another game. Resigning guarantees a loss, but usually when you resign that's because you're losing anyways.

Nowhere did anyone acknowledge that a side won the debate.

Maybe "won the debate" isn't the right term to use. It depends on what the debate is. If someone wants to win, then yes, CalculatorKid obviously won because playing on is the only way to win, or at least draw. Quitting guarantees a loss. 

But if the debate is best use of your time, then it's probably a draw. Nobody wins the debate. Chess itself is probably not the best use of your time. So quitting and playing another game is not really a win because you STILL are not using your time wisely. So it depends on what you want to spend your time on. 

I'm sure there are some people who feel the best use of their time is to play chess until someone wins by checkmate or timeout. And I'm sure there are others who feel the best use of their time is to play chess, resign a bad position, and play another game of chess where they might have better odds. I really cant see how either one is "right" or "wrong". 

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@snudoo my problem isn't with players like you. It's with those who think players SHOULD resign and even worse those who complain when they don't because they feel disrespected.

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monsterchip wrote:
TheCalculatorKid wrote:

@snudoo my problem isn't with players like you. It's with those who think players SHOULD resign and even worse those who complain when they don't because they feel disrespected.

No its just a waste of time that you are losing and you continue playing

For some people. For others, it's the best use of their time. All people dont think the same way. 

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@monsterchip it's not a waste of time because I enjoy the game.

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@snudoo that daily game you posted, I would still play on there. I'd want to see if I can create anything with those pawns, plus if you are winning, you've earnt the checkmate. Enjoy it.

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IronfootDain wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:
IronfootDain wrote:

But in Japanese and Prussian culture they dont surrender. Look at ww2

and look what happened to them. Child warfare.

they did cause a lot of damage to the allies, 

Didn't change anything.

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btickler wrote:

Percentages are a poor way to represent one's assessment of a chess position, especially for people rated <2000.  Exactly what would constitute the difference between a 75% chance to win and an 85% chance to win?

The question is qualitative.  Do you have legitimate counterplay?  Fine, play on.  Is your position completely out of gas?  Are you going to have to rely on a serious blunder from an opponent that is unlikely to make one at their demonstrated skill level?  Then resign, and play another game.  If you have a possible swindle in the form of sacrifice for a perpetual check or the like, by all means go for it.  If your idea of a "swindle" is to keep moving your lone king around and hope your opponents stalemate you with their Q+R, then you're just being an annoying dweeb...at *least* as annoying as the players that will promote 3-4 queens and try to embarrass you for not conceding a lost game.

Absolutely true. These are the people I want to be debated.

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Back in section 2, I disagree that you resign because you may find a way make your position better or save the game!
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Chesteraz7 wrote:
Back in section 2, I disagree that you resign because you may find a way make your position better or save the game!

that's called counterplay. But what if you don't have any?

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Chesteraz7 wrote:
Back in section 2, I disagree that you resign because you may find a way make your position better or save the game!

If you don't see any, then you are waiting for your opponent to blunder. Lost positions won't teach you anything.

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faaagamer wrote:
Chesteraz7 wrote:
Back in section 2, I disagree that you resign because you may find a way make your position better or save the game!

If you don't see any, then you are waiting for your opponent to blunder. Lost positions won't teach you anything.

You can play for the point, but you don't want to rely on the opponent for every match you play after going in a heavy disadvantaged losing position.

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TheCalculatorKid wrote:

@monsterchip it's not a waste of time because I enjoy the game.

You enjoy getting your arse whooped? I doubt that.

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RESIGNATION.IS FOR WIMPS - Period.As in warfare fight the enemy to the bitter end. No mercy.

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Witkrag wrote:

RESIGNATION.IS FOR WIMPS - Period.As in warfare fight the enemy to the bitter end. No mercy.

I've never thought of it that way. In reality, resignation is for losers. Because resignation guarantees, without any question, a loss. The absolute, one hundred percent way to ensure that you lose, is to resign. So literally, and by literally I mean literally, only losers resign. 

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Dark_Knight_50 wrote:

you want to get humiliated or what???

Go get  a life.You.bore me 👎

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Are you.out for a duck.mate?🦆😁

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