Offering/accepting draws - Chess Forums

randomuser101

Sep 22, 2018

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#1

Here's a really pointless thing people on this site do.

You're in a position that looks like it's heading towards or a draw, and the both players start repeating their moves. You've both repeated twice so you assume that they'll just repeat a third time, and you offer a draw. Your opponent refuses.

And then repeats a third time, allowing you to claim a draw anyway.

What's the point in this behaviour? Why do people do it?

(And don't get me started on players who repeatedly offer a draw when a queen down. That's just insulting.)

BCFJellerino

Sep 22, 2018

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#2

randomuser101 wrote:

Here's a really pointless thing people on this site do.

You're in a position that looks like it's heading towards or a draw, and the both players start repeating their moves. You've both repeated twice so you assume that they'll just repeat a third time, and you offer a draw. Your opponent refuses.

And then repeats a third time, allowing you to claim a draw anyway.

What's the point in this behaviour? Why do people do it?

(And don't get me started on players who repeatedly offer a draw when a queen down. That's just insulting.)

I think it happens in real life too. I recently played in a tournament where nobody would accept a draw from a drawn position and we played on from there and I won, but before that I played in another tournament where someone offered me a draw when they were in a completely winning position. I think some people rely of others making mistakes to win, or simply don't know how to gauge the strength of positions. Also with offering a draw when you're a queen down, there's always the hope that your opponent might need to go etc. A desperate hope might I add.

BCFJellerino

Sep 22, 2018

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#3

randomuser101 wrote:

Here's a really pointless thing people on this site do.

You're in a position that looks like it's heading towards or a draw, and the both players start repeating their moves. You've both repeated twice so you assume that they'll just repeat a third time, and you offer a draw. Your opponent refuses.

And then repeats a third time, allowing you to claim a draw anyway.

What's the point in this behaviour? Why do people do it?

(And don't get me started on players who repeatedly offer a draw when a queen down. That's just insulting.)

I think it happens in real life too. I recently played in a tournament where nobody would accept a draw from a drawn position and we played on from there and I won, but before that I played in another tournament where someone offered me a draw when they were in a completely winning position. I think some people rely of others making mistakes to win, or simply don't know how to gauge the strength of positions. Also with offering a draw when you're a queen down, there's always the hope that your opponent might need to go etc. A desperate hope might I add.

2Late4Work

Sep 23, 2018

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#4

I played a OTB game against a much stronger oponent, like 800 points higher in blitz in here. This was a long game and I was a pawn up. I offered him a draw and he declined. 20 moves or so later he was totally lost and resigned. Pride can be your enemy.

2Late4Work

Sep 23, 2018

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#5

The same guy beat Magnus Carlsen 2 months ago, as the only player of 10 players in a OTB simultan. He is only 14 years and a huge talent.

cellomaster8

Sep 23, 2018

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#6

@2Late4Work

Unless you post the game, we will not believe you. Right now, it sounds like BS

2Late4Work

Sep 23, 2018

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#7

cellomaster8 skrev:

@2Late4Work

Loool. I have friends in here who can see my posts. Of course I wouldn't dare lying. He is around 2000 in blitz and bullet. 2500 in tactics.

Unless you post the game, we will not believe you. Right now, it sounds like BS

2Late4Work

Sep 23, 2018

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#8

See Round 7.

http://turneringsservice.sjakklubb.no/pairings.aspx?TID=ArendalSjakkselskabhostturneri2017-ArendalSjakkselskab_2

cellomaster8

Sep 23, 2018

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#9

Clicked on the link. See round 7. However:

1. Who are you and who did you play?

2. How do I even know if you are who you say you are?

Of course, I will give you the benefit of the doubt first.

cellomaster8

Sep 23, 2018

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#10

Ok I see who you are now. Good job. But I see something suspicious, not in the tournament of course, but that the guy you beat got his account closed for violating fair play rules (Sinder Fossum, chess.com ID Neymar4595). What gives?

2Late4Work

Sep 23, 2018

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#11

I tried to find him to prove it, so that's why he wasn't able to find.

There was a chessfestival in Skien Norway. Magnus and 3 other GM's and a IM played simultan against 100 +. And then blitz tournament among us. Neymar won the tournament and was one of 10 to face Magnus. Neymar won against Magnus and the 4 others in the simultan. And also when Magnus faced him and 9 others in a second simultan. It was even in the newspaper.

2Late4Work

Sep 23, 2018

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#12

Magnus got irritated, he is 14 or 15.

cellomaster8

Sep 23, 2018

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#13

So you are saying Magnus blamed Neymar4595 for cheating and that is why he was banned?

2Late4Work

Sep 23, 2018

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#14

Haha no. This was live games OTB.

I find it strange that he is closed for cheating. How can someone cheat when playing 1 min bullet. I have stalked him myself in here when he was playing 2000-2100 rated games.

I also got a warning from Chess.com of fair play. Because I aborted some black games when I wanted to try a new opening with white. It seems more likely that is the reason. But I don't know the guy more than that he is playing at my club.