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MisterWindUpBird

Don't like any of your stated white preferences myself. But of your black preferences, I'd go Modern defence.

MinzGambitPlayer
MisterWindUpBird đã viết:

Don't like any of your stated white preferences myself. But of your black preferences, I'd go Modern defence.

What opening do you think I need change for white and black 

MinzGambitPlayer
SmallerCircles đã viết:

Any openings work, even the Polish since it has its own tricks, which can be useful for fast chess. Modern defense and Dutch are neat choices for black because they somewhat unusual compared to e5/d5/KID. How do you find the Modern and Dutch work for you?

What opening  do you think i need change for black and white ?

Victorssouri

For white, I would recommend the Danish Gambit and the London System.

For black... hard to say. Openings with black are usually sharp and can be quite complicated. If you follow the principles, you can found yourself in a good position in the Ruy Lopez, the Italian, or even the Queen's Gambit Declined. 

MinzGambitPlayer
Victorssouri đã viết:

For white, I would recommend the Danish Gambit and the London System.

For black... hard to say. Openings with black are usually sharp and can be quite complicated. If you follow the principles, you can found yourself in a good position in the Ruy Lopez, the Italian, or even the Queen's Gambit Declined. 

OK , thank for your help . What opening for black I need change ?

SaveliO_Churilov0

Hi

SmallerCircles

Whether you need to change your openings just depends on you goals. Are you looking to have some fun offbeat openings? Do you want openings that give you winning chances, especially as you get better? Do you prefer more positional, maneuvering openings, or more dynamic ones?

 

If you are looking to weed out the ones that are less competitive, you could replace the Scotch, I suppose. It's not bad by any means but it gives black an equal position very early in the game. But it also makes a very open game that may be what you like.

B1ZMARK
Victorssouri wrote:

I kinda have to agree with AunTheKnight there. For lower rated players (speaking for myself), openings kinda don't matter. Accurate play and avoiding mistakes/blunders are very more important at this level. Besides that, let's say you spent 5 hours learning a cool Caro-Kann line, and then, your opponent just plays a random bad move on the third move. Sure, I think it's important knowing 3 or 4 moves into the main lines, recognizing openings and its names, but you surely don't need deep theory.

I never advocated for learning loads of theory. I simply said that openings matter. Just like how you can’t neglect endgame skills, a lack of opening skills is also not good. Most intermediate players should know at least a few lines in their opening and critical ideas in other openings. Being able to get an advantage from the opening makes your job easier.

MinzGambitPlayer
SmallerCircles đã viết:

Whether you need to change your openings just depends on you goals. Are you looking to have some fun offbeat openings? Do you want openings that give you winning chances, especially as you get better? Do you prefer more positional, maneuvering openings, or more dynamic ones?

 

If you are looking to weed out the ones that are less competitive, you could replace the Scotch, I suppose. It's not bad by any means but it gives black an equal position very early in the game. But it also makes a very open game that may be what you like.

OK , thank for your help 

Victorssouri
B1ZMARK wrote:
Victorssouri wrote:

I kinda have to agree with AunTheKnight there. For lower rated players (speaking for myself), openings kinda don't matter. Accurate play and avoiding mistakes/blunders are very more important at this level. Besides that, let's say you spent 5 hours learning a cool Caro-Kann line, and then, your opponent just plays a random bad move on the third move. Sure, I think it's important knowing 3 or 4 moves into the main lines, recognizing openings and its names, but you surely don't need deep theory.

I never advocated for learning loads of theory. I simply said that openings matter. Just like how you can’t neglect endgame skills, a lack of opening skills is also not good. Most intermediate players should know at least a few lines in their opening and critical ideas in other openings. Being able to get an advantage from the opening makes your job easier.

Hey, I never said you said anything. I was just responding to the main topic, and I quoted the guy over there. And sure, it's what I said, I think it's good knowing the most played moves in the top positions, like the Ruy Lopez. But I just think that beginners don't know how to respond to bad moves in the opening, unless it's a real blunder. They might just continue developing, taking space... which is a good thing. I had a game where the dude pushed his H and A pawns on the opening, and putted his rooks on the sixth rank (and yes, you can say and I would agree that this is an example of lacking opening principles). I just... tried to play normally, and I won. Not to mention that openings can have multiple variations. Of course, if you know all of the most popular variations, that's great, but as a beginner, you can enter one where you don't know what the hell you are doing. Sure, I like openings. I like to search through variations with Stockfish and the Database, to see who plays what... what variation is the most popular... but it can be a hard thing for people below the 1800 rating.

So basically, for me... I think the problem on playing openings in lower levels is this "unbalaced field", where one kinda knows what he's doing, and the other it's just trying to survive, and while trying to survive, he'll knock out the opponent by accident, because their chess is chaotic. But sure, if you can and if you want, you should learn as many variations as possible. And again, I'm just a non-sensical 1160, many can disagree with me.

ren97ren
oPAWNo wrote:

Black has no good opening, if your black, you have no chance. If your white your already winning, an should take advantage of that.

if your black you should try to equalize in the opening

MinzGambitPlayer
ren97ren đã viết:
oPAWNo wrote:

Black has no good opening, if your black, you have no chance. If your white your already winning, an should take advantage of that.

if your black you should try to equalize in the opening

thank for your suggestion

MisterWindUpBird

Ima say white- London system, Black -Modern defence. 

MinzGambitPlayer
MisterWindUpBird đã viết:

Ima say white- London system, Black -Modern defence. 

anything else ?

SmallerCircles

What's your favorite opening currently, Hiro?

MinzGambitPlayer
SmallerCircles đã viết:

What's your favorite opening currently, Hiro?

For black : ruy lopez , italian 

For white : polish , english , queen's pawn opening 

SmallerCircles

Can't go very wrong with Ruy Lopez: https://lichess.org/study/5Wbse9t7 

If you like the pinning of the knight and potential pawn doubling involved in the Ruy, you could look into the Nimzo-Indian for black:

 

The Nimzo, paired with the Queen's Indian Defense, is tremendously respected and could be very valuable for you in response to 1. d4 2. c4

MinzGambitPlayer
SmallerCircles đã viết:

Can't go very wrong with Ruy Lopez: https://lichess.org/study/5Wbse9t7 

If you like the pinning of the knight and potential pawn doubling involved in the Ruy, you could look into the Nimzo-Indian for black:

 

 

The Nimzo, paired with the Queen's Indian Defense, is tremendously respected and could be very valuable for you in response to 1. d4 2. c4

Thank you 

ren97ren
HiroHamada612 wrote:

I need some opnions about my opening for black and white 

For Black : Ruy Lopez , Italia , Dutch , Mordern Defense 

For White : English , Polish , Scotch , King Indian Attack , King Indian Defense 

I hope everyone will help me 

Bruh, the ruy lopez is for white but you could say morphys defense though also kings Indian defense if a opening for black not white

MinzGambitPlayer
ren97ren đã viết:
HiroHamada612 wrote:

I need some opnions about my opening for black and white 

For Black : Ruy Lopez , Italia , Dutch , Mordern Defense 

For White : English , Polish , Scotch , King Indian Attack , King Indian Defense 

I hope everyone will help me 

Bruh, the ruy lopez is for white but you could say morphys defense though also kings Indian defense if a opening for black not white

Thank you !