People who don't resign - Chess Forums - Page 3

pam234

Oct 11, 2021

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#41

I never resign either. My endgame needs the practice so I fight on. Will try for a draw if no win possible. If that annoys my opponent then that is their problem!

IsraeliGal

Oct 11, 2021

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#42

dannyhume wrote:

Soniasthetics wrote:

dannyhume wrote:

“Continue to play on in a completely lost position” seems to me the ultimate example of “hope chess”, especially when no prize money or ranking is at stake, as applies to the vast majority of online chess, but to each their own.

https://www.chess.com/game/daily/328382364

Your most recent game, you're losing pretty badly on move 14, and this is 3 day chess, yet you continued and it ended up being a draw.

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You may not realize this, but I did not know the engine’s assessment while I was playing.

You don't need engine assessment... you were down a piece..

Ubik42

Oct 11, 2021

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#43

Alpha Zero would still say it's winning

dannyhume

Oct 27, 2021

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#44

Soniasthetics wrote:

dannyhume wrote:

Soniasthetics wrote:

dannyhume wrote:

“Continue to play on in a completely lost position” seems to me the ultimate example of “hope chess”, especially when no prize money or ranking is at stake, as applies to the vast majority of online chess, but to each their own.

https://www.chess.com/game/daily/328382364

Your most recent game, you're losing pretty badly on move 14, and this is 3 day chess, yet you continued and it ended up being a draw.

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You may not realize this, but I did not know the engine’s assessment while I was playing.

You don't need engine assessment... you were down a piece..

No … I sacrificed the exchange and a pawn to open a line to the enemy king, and had my rook and all of my minor pieces positioned on the same side of the board ready to attack … and I am an 1100-level player who didn’t have the engine’s assessment at the time.
Of course, what dannyhume does in any game is probably not representative of truth in chess and does not have any bearing on what consists of “hope chess”, especially in positions against someone he has played a few dozen times under the theme of giving choices to non-chess playing co-workers to pick our moves and then whimsically switching rules to see who can get their king first back to the starting position before the last pawn gets snatched might have escaped your post-mortem analysis.

TheCalculatorKid

Oct 27, 2021

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#45

It isn't a players job to resign in a losing position. It's a players job to win in a winning position.

shlushed9

Oct 27, 2021

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#46

Is there a penalty for abandoning a game rather than resigning? I was playing a guy and he abandoned and his score dropped 100 points.

2nobody2

Oct 27, 2021

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#47

Ive played you. yea...after the whole knight promotion i wont waste my time with you. in fact, id likely just hand over the useless points and shove you on your way. and look it up , you got crushed ever time we played. cheers.

TombstoneTate

Oct 27, 2021

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#48

hi

2nobody2

Oct 27, 2021

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#49

CooloutAC wrote:

blitz2009 wrote:

CooloutAC wrote:

badger_song wrote:

"You will learn nearly nothing from resigning games."

Yes indeed,you'll certainly miss out on all those oppertunities to steal victory from the jaws of defeat,gain the point,and stun your opponents with the wizardry of your "Lone-King-Mate";wherein,your lone king,your sole surviving piece,against an armada of material still manages somehow to achieve checkmate.

I once got a stalemate with a lone king on the board vs two queens, two rooks, a bishop and knight. Its an honorable win otherwise what is the point of even having a clock? I resign most of my losses due to being tilted, but really I should not be resigning any games at my level at all. Chess teaches you discipline that way I'm finding out. Chess: CooloutAC vs tanslaplante - 27324600587 - Chess.com

I mean ya i agree. But if your like 1500 or below you should probably play on but there is no point in playing on at a 2000 level or higher. It is just a waste of time. There is no "learning" involved.

Its not about learning for me. Its imply trying to stalemate or flag because that is part of the game. Otherwise why even have those rules in place? I wonder if part of the problem here is alot of sore losing streamers have caused this to be seen as poor sportsmanship. They even coined the term "dirty flagging". I also can't help but wonder if people who are trying to speedrun get the most upset over this. Also reminds me of why fischer quit chess because of politics and too many players taking draws. lol.

playing within 25 points of your score is about as much learning as 2+2. sure be nice if the so called masters could locate the testies to defend their scores...

romannosejob

Oct 27, 2021

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#50

CooloutAC wrote:

Let me just say that stalling has also become fashionable on this site because of speedrunners. I hear many on twitch discuss how they prefer to purposely do this when they suspect someone of speedrunning.

tbh I understand this.

I find the multitudes of strong players that derive kicks from beating much much weaker players easily very sad. No other sport would a professional level player with years of experience enjoy beating up on amateurs.

llama47

Oct 27, 2021

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#51

romannosejob wrote:

CooloutAC wrote:

Let me just say that stalling has also become fashionable on this site because of speedrunners. I hear many on twitch discuss how they prefer to purposely do this when they suspect someone of speedrunning.

tbh I understand this.

I find the multitudes of strong players that derive kicks from beating much much weaker players easily very sad. No other sport would a professional level player with years of experience enjoy beating up on amateurs.

They're short fun games. If they had to play a 1200 in a tournament setting they'd be very annoyed and bored.

Ranger088615

Oct 27, 2021

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#52

Agreed. I have never met an opponent who has resigned

Pan_troglodites

Oct 27, 2021

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#53

I recently learned how to resign when playing against chess.com bots

NinkyTinks

Oct 27, 2021

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#54

Hi

Shanksamillion

Oct 27, 2021

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#55

Why resign when you can make them wait ? Hahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Oh

TheCalculatorKid

Oct 28, 2021

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#56

I don't understand people who think playing the game to completion is a waste of time. You agree to play a game against an opponent. That game doesn't finish as soon as one person gets an advantage, the advantage has to be converted.

DWiggins3

Oct 28, 2021

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#57

@ThecalculatorKid "I don't understand people who think playing the game to completion is a waste of time. You agree to play a game against an opponent. That game doesn't finish as soon as one person gets an advantage, the advantage has to be converted. "

Yet if the losing player can not convert the advantage, knowing when to resign is more sportsmanship. Just because other players have an ego, doesn't make it right. OTB-rated games, in real person, not many will play. When in fact they know they are losing terribly.

TheCalculatorKid

Oct 28, 2021

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#58

Resigning is sportsmanship, its the easy way out. Insiting someone resign because you are currently in a winning position is incredibly unsporting. If no one ever achieved checkmate how would anyone ever know how to achieve it?

ninjaswat

Oct 28, 2021

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#59

DWiggins3 wrote:

@ThecalculatorKid "I don't understand people who think playing the game to completion is a waste of time. You agree to play a game against an opponent. That game doesn't finish as soon as one person gets an advantage, the advantage has to be converted. "

Yet if the losing player can not convert the advantage, knowing when to resign is more sportsmanship. Just because other players have an ego, doesn't make it right. OTB-rated games, in real person, not many will play. When in fact they know they are losing terribly.

ha! as if! amateur and intermediate players play til checkmate OTB from my most recent experiences...

yes it's aggravating but you have to deal with it. Why is your definition of "sportsmanship" so important to other people??

pam234

Oct 28, 2021

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#60

Last week I blundered my queen away in the opening. Won his queen at the the end of the middle game. Went on to win the game. Should I have resigned? Of course not!