Points should be different for white compared with black

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There's nothing wrong with the logic of that statement? Also am respectful of all, never told anyone to "just shut up". Chess forums should be a place for free exchange of ideas. What I don't follow is your "straw man argument", where you argue against something I never said and is not relevant at all to the discussion. The plus and minus point system is as it should be. Also if we are going to increase any rating it should be black not white?

The heck is this rebuttal...

Guess I got bored explaining the same thing for the 4th time. I worked out the correct solution, raising white (no, not black)'s effective rating when calculating points. People don't listen and the owners of the site won't listen. So it's all utterly pointless.

Well clearly there is something wrong with your statement when no damn man can understand you even after your so called 4th explanation.

This idea is atrocious. Taking away points from white destroys the point system entirely. The point system is meant to evaluate a position, and show who has the advantage, and how big that advantage is. Playing white comes with the advantage of moving first, playing black comes with the advantage of moving second. Good players will know how to use both of these advantages. Bad players do not know how to use the advantages provided, and will make stupid threads like this one.

1. No it is not.

2. He is not taking points away from white, but rather, adding points for black wins.

3. The "point system" we are discussing here are ratings.  I have no idea how a rating evaluates a position. 

4. True. Black decides where the games goes. For example, 1. e4 c5. Good players will know how to use these advantages. 

5.  This thread is not stupid. He is just trying to have a discussion without anyone insulting him, and the latter is clearly not working.

I think this is a very easy topic to address. If someone has an idea for awarding points differently that what is currently done, do it. Don't just say it, do it. 

Go ahead and put on a tournament, make the prize fund big, so that it attracts legitimate serious players. Implement this scoring system. And see what happens. If people like it, the current system will go away all on it's own. If people don't like it, well, then it wasn't such a great idea. Maybe New Coke could sponsor the tournament. 

He is talking about rating points. 

Oh. I just went back and read post #1. It sure seems like he was talking about individual games, or tournaments. 

A Draw would be something like  :----

White  -  .4862049753817 points

Black  -   .5137950246183 points.

It was quite ambiguous. 

I agree. I guess the principle is the same though. Whether it's individual tournaments or ratings in general, the idea is to award points differently than what is currently done. 

That would be difficult to do for ratings because they wouldn't be standardized. People would have ratings based on two different methods. I think if this were a feasible idea it might make more sense to test it's popularity through a tournament. Start small. 

    In the long run, a player will be white as often as they are black, so the small disadvantage/advantage of color will even out.

White has an advantage, but not enough for a win. Points should stay the same