Pre-move remove!

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When is this site going to remove the pre move option. Certainly helps the cheaters/engines on here.

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bye
Avatar of brisket

The point is that it goes back to when postal chess was a thing.

Avatar of MastaOfDisastaa

So people can move quicker... (facepalm)

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no one will take this thread any bit seriously until you give proof that it does. Plus, shouldn't this go in the Cheating Forum? Not really sure.

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What if the pre-move was announced to your opponent? That way, if the opponent uses that information, they will use up more time on the clock. Sounds like a fair trade to me.

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True that Buffchix. Don´t hate the player hate the game (and timecontrol is a part of that game, i u loose every game on time play with increment), there are not as many cheaters as there are black helicopters in the sky  ;-)

and btw, achieving the better position doesn´t make u automatically win that game, the one with the last blunder looses and making the last blunder out of a good position feels bad but it´s daily buisness

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666Buffchix wrote:

What if people stopped whining about losing on time and took advantage of the premove option themselves, instead of curling up in fetal positions and emoting about it?

you cant do premove otb, why here? using software tools to aid a game isnt allowed, member? what if some crafty indian programmer combines premoving and calculating move-combinations into a component that can be plugged in the cc board, masquarated as a premove-tool, providing a whole series/chains of premoves, allowing them to sit back and simply watch how "40"-move "premoves" play out in cumnulative 4 seconds? how's that not cheating: you get to execute several moves in a row, with a total time-cost of less than a second, how's that physically possible? it's not physically possible for a human to execute a single move faster that 1 second, including clock change. as a matter of fact, nove-confirm button should be mandatory, as it simulates clock-button press the best. and, of course, premoves shouldbe gone, as they belong to your head, for your single hand to execute (move + clock).

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there is no need to be racist about this. we're talking about premoves in software-driven chess. in contrast to traditional (OTB), that is new, and with-rigth relatable to using computerized aids during the game, which is cheating. india and its tigers have nothing to do with this, sir.

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666Buffchix wrote:

mynameagain wrote:

there is no need to be racist about this. we're talking about premoves in software-driven chess. in contrast to traditional (OTB), that is new, and with-rigth relatable to using computerized aids during the game, which is cheating. india and its tigers have nothing to do with this, sir.

The time gained by the premoves might get cancelled out by all the background loading, ads and cutesy animations. Ever consider that one, tiger?

again, racist references are not appreciated (tiger). what you just said (background processing, etc) not only is not a factor, but it makes no sense whatsoever.

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666Buffchix wrote:

mynameagain wrote:
666Buffchix wrote:
mynameagain wrote:

there is no need to be racist about this. we're talking about premoves in software-driven chess. in contrast to traditional (OTB), that is new, and with-rigth relatable to using computerized aids during the game, which is cheating. india and its tigers have nothing to do with this, sir.

The time gained by the premoves might get cancelled out by all the background loading, ads and cutesy animations. Ever consider that one, tiger?

again, racist references are not appreciated (tiger). what you just said (background processing, etc) not only is not a factor, but it makes no sense whatsoever.

Again, not racist. Maybe you should learn a programming language to better understand what I meant. I hear that COBOL is a popular one, COBOL NOW.

And, yet again, you sound like one with your reference to pfragramming, alluding to how Indian programmers are inferior compared to US. These racist comnents are bot appreciated, and they do not belong here, sir. We are talking whether software-chess premoves were actually a bad idea.

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The best thing about playing fast is the premove!!!

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You can feel the adrenaline going up

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king_and_killer wrote:

The best thing about playing fast is the premove!!!

We are debating if using tools to play faster and/or better is a form of cheating. It"d be analog to using super-fast robots to carry our moves OTB.

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mynameagain wrote:

king_and_killer wrote:

The best thing about playing fast is the premove!!!

We are debating if using tools to play faster and/or better is a form of cheating. It"d be analog to using super-fast robots to carry our moves OTB.

... fed to them as "premoves". You probably wouldn't like to see me using my robit then, would you? Especially since you wouldn't know that it alsonprovides calculating helo. But, it's just a premove machine, sir - you're welcome to use yours.

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catdogorb wrote:

Poorboynj wrote:

When is this site going to remove the pre move option. Certainly helps the cheaters/engines on here.

I'd say if your mental disability is contagious, then you can at least hope. Chess.com might eventually make this change.

There is no need to be derogatory, sir. The question is sound, and it was asked respectfully. Thank you for any on-topic contribution that you may still make.

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666Buffchix wrote:

mynameagain wrote:

bot appreciated,

 

Yes, sorry, I don't have a spell-checker to point out typos for me to correct before sending. That particular word was supposed to be "not".

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Don’t think removing the pre move would stop the cheaters though
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Jayoot wrote:

Don’t think removing the pre move would stop the cheaters though

Probably not. But pre-move is an option that does give you unnatural ability, though (to move fast), which you cannot do OTB. I'm sure using robots to execute OTB moves for you would be unacceptable. Imagine yourself playing against my super-fast RoboPlayer 2020, which my cousin Rajender, a robotics-programmer, is working on. He only has a prototype at the moment (which looks both hilarious and ugly at the same time), but that machine is faster than any man. Its cameras are pointed at the board, and you communicate with it either verbally or you punch-in moves via touch-screen. You have to teach it the position of the clock button before the game starts. The goal for this is to enable those unfortunate people with disabilities to play OTB chess. This machine, for some, will be their hands, while for some it will be their mouth, too. He's still perfecting detection of pieces that aren't perfectly positioned on the board (e.g. crossing square boundaries or knocked down).

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666Buffchix wrote:

mynameagain wrote:

You probably wouldn't like to see me using my robit ... alsonprovides calculating helo. But, it's just a premove machine, sir - you're welcome to use yours.

Yeah same to you.

You sound derogatory a lityle, sir, which is truly uncalled for, just like those racist statements that you made above. We are talking about premoves in software-chess here.