Puzzle Hack?

I know some people who have like 4000 or 5000 puzzle rating, I don't think it's possible to achieve without a hack or something, I'm doing a lot of puzzles and I'm pretty decent but I'm only 2400.

Just curious, is there some way to "cheat" the tactics trainer? Please don't take it the wrong way, I don't want to cheat myself, just curious.

Thanks

I'm a steady 2600 and I'm not that good but I don't cheat

@FlashyFerrari

I agree with @NoisyMix, no one can have 15000, unless he uses some kind of cheat, hack, or he is a bot.

Play 1v1 on livechess now!! You two, @NoisyMix , @RedgirlZ lol.

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I completely disagree with your point, but for a separate reason. You stated that either the puzzles on this site are broken, or that the people are 'suspect', which is a very ignorant paranoid way to put it. I believe that is the manipulation of rating by the memorization of puzzles that give someone the edge on chess.com. That negates your point that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be rated 15000 in chess.com under normal conditions. 

This can be viable, as we've seen very high Puzzle Rush scores by people that aren't the world's best players on live stream. The only way this is possible is by memorization, which much faster than calculation. 

I await your response.

Chess.com's puzzle rating is not really a rating. It is a cumulative number reflecting how many puzzles you solve correctly. I assume any master or above with a flare for tactics could run up a massive number if she had nothing better to do with her time. Since a number of comments in this thread are incredibly sexist, let's just assume a guy trying to do this would have his brains ooze out of his ears after doing 23 and a half puzzles.

Oh and memorizing puzzles IS NOT CHEATING. That is why you repeatedly practice puzzles so in an actual game you can calculate tactics accurately. It is called STUDYING!

Tactics trainer and puzzle ratings are meaningless (as are/were the chess mentor ratings).  People do understand this, right?  ELO ratings are based on a pool of players playing *against each other*, winning and losing ratings points using a prescribed method.  The tactics ratings are just hopelessly vague approximations lifted off of the average ratings of the players that solve them.

It's like saying "I chose the same move as a GM, ergo I am a GM"...or saying "I know how to change a spark plug, I am a car mechanic".

What tactics ratings really say is that a player can evaluate a snapshot position and, having been given knowledge that there is a tactic there to be found, find it and execute it.  This is a far cry from playing chess.  Which is why, although most people will tell you to train tactics primarily to improve your game, training tactics alone will not take you to a title (maybe in bullet/blitz, but not in real chess ...).

What good is it to see all the tactics placed in front of you if you can't play chess well enough to produce those positions in the first place?

The recent addition of survival mode ensures that a metric ton of players who over value their scores and under value their time will soon have better puzzle rush scores then the titled players on the site.  Does this prove they are better?  Nope.  Does it prove they are cheating?  Nope.  What it demonstrates is what was already true...all the "ratings" listed on chess.com that are not directly based on ELO rated chess games are worthless.  So stop worrying about them.

P.S. The memorization "hack" will of course work...it doesn't matter if there 60,000 puzzles if there are only 1,000 at the super GM level (and the distribution is not going to be even, ever, because creating or finding a good 2700+ level puzzle takes significantly more effort than a cheap <1000 tactic).  Why do you people care if somebody wastes a ton of their time getting a meaningless score like 15000 on puzzles?  It doesn't matter.  It doesn't mean they are rated 15000 OTB, they aren't going get any title, they can't win any money...it's meaningless to get, even more meaningless to argue over.

For those that are still raging over this injustice and truly that envious...put the time in and get 15000 yourself.  I guarantee you it's much easier than trying to get GM norm .

If the system has some bug which allows you to get a high score such as the notion you put forth--hitting the refresh button to get a puzzle you can solve--then you are exploiting the system. If you simply have done so many puzzles you see typical patterns--Chess.com seems to be constantly adding new puzzles--or you are memorizing puzzles, that is not EXPLOITING the system. As I mentioned in my first post, the puzzle rating is cumulative in nature, which means as an ELO based rating, it is meaningless. 

I don't think a real bug exists in the system. I think a few people just really like chess puzzles.

If you read the profile information of the highest rated chess.com puzzler, he clearly states that he is a USCF Expert (good, but not great player--I am a USCF A player and have beaten experts) who credits memory for his good score. Instead of griping about his high rating, you would do better to follow his advice and solve 3500 puzzles. Your chess improvement would be dramatic and you would become known as The App to your friends and attractive to women. OK maybe not the last....

Not true. Chess.com literally said on stream that memorizing puzzles is a valid strategy. So not a cheat or a hack.

Another point though I don't know about its validity. I solve a fair amount of puzzles and am completely unsure of how chess.com assigns a rating to them. Sometimes a puzzle will be low rated and only a single move will be listed for the answer--even though you have to solve a combination for that move and other times a puzzle will have a higher rating since you have to input the moves of a combination--although it is simpler than the lower rated puzzle. In other words, I think rating puzzles is fairly arbitrary.

AFAIK they do it based on the ratings of people who solved and failed the problems. So if A 2000 in tactics gets a 1900 puzzle wrong, the 1900 puzzle goes up more then it would if a 1900 got that puzzle wrong. And when you get the puzzle right, the puzzle's rating goes down.

I disagree. I don't think it is a bug or bot, but somewhat invalid manipulation. It doesn't mean anything (15000 rating), as it wasn't done the 'right' way.

I think that chess.com should repeat the same puzzle after the refresh button is pressed.

That does make sense and would indicate a correctly rated puzzle would have a 50 per cent solve rate. However, it does not indicate how the initial rating is determined. I'm assuming the puzzle rating is based on puzzle solver's rating which is yet another sticky wicket.

I also am a bit concerned that every time I solve a puzzle its rating falls....ah the humanity!