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"Cheating and Chess"
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Jan 28, 2016
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#3
All the games I ever played in my life were so insignificant, no reason to ever think of cheating
Just for fun, relaxation from the real world!
Why cheat? Its just fun to play !
When you slander someone,you steal their reputation and make them a pariah. It's super grand theft plus heinous assault. It's a mortal sin.
but what if you slander someone and nobody gives a toss ?
Your victim will,and I will too.
but a victim is only a victim if they agree consciously or subconsciously with irrelevant words, that doesn't make them too smart, or is that something concrete in chess circles ?
That's everywhere. People feel something called "The damnation of accusation." That's how we're built.
It's better that 1000 guilty go free,before 1 innocent is punished. People are punished the second they are accused.
Ah! It's a collective consciousness thing because its been going on for far too long. Ok.
Jan 28, 2016
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#12
metizorr wrote:
The problem that is very obvious, is the amount of cheating going on. Yes people get offended but what's worse is , the cheating. I had a previous account in 2012 for a few years and I noticed most players have accusations about time hacking and using a chess bot on their profile. This is becoming more increasingly significant on this server. But not only here but other places as well, theres just no getting away from it.
How I wish Chess.com would impliment a Auto kick system like most shootem up games have. So if the hacker what ever he or she is using the system would just kick that offending player on the spot, it would cut the cheating down to almost down to pretty much zero.
P.S. If someone has been tagged like I noticed many player's are, why doesn't the player read a profile before playing that person.
Slander is not worse than cheating. Cheating is by far the greatest act of deceitfulness , and dishonour you can do in any game. It shows a lack of respect for anyone play the game. It shows the lack of brain cells that player might have and it clearly shows they can't play chess if they need a computer or what ever they are using to play for them.
This is a massive problem that chess.com are having and most online chess servers/ People say it's not a big deal, please it happens everyday on this server. And their are players that are still here who havent been banned wtf chess.com??. You report them and they are still playing seriously. Whats the point to report a cheater or someone using multiple accounts to chess.com when they clealry do nothing about it.
Hi Metizorr, I don't mean to be rude but I do believe you are mistaken regarding the nature of accusations on chess.com. Typically, a player can accuse someone of anything merely by writing notes on their wall. In light of this, it is no surprise that sore losers call cheater on other's walls! Indeed if the person believed they would be judged for those notes they might simply delete the public note. That being understood, we must turn to the next point: cheating is not that widespread on chess.com. In fact, those who claim cheating is widespread do not understand cheating well at all. I do not think of cheating at all when I lose, and so it might as well not exist. Understadning this is the key to your chess happiness Metizzor, Au Revoire!
Jan 28, 2016
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#13
I renewed last week. It was a close call.
BISHOP_e3 wrote:
Jamie, Who bought you that premium CROWN account?
Jan 28, 2016
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#14
The site is very conservative when it comes to banning people for engine use. I only know of one mistake. I fundamentally disagree that it is better 1000 guilty cheaters go free than 1 innocent person is punished. If a real appeal system existed, then that innocent person would have recourse.
When the site becomes overrun with engine users, it will collapse. "Naming and shaming" in the public forums is wrong, because most of the "namers" don't know what they are talking about. However, there are some membets who have a strong handle on cheater identification, and behind closed doors, in the Cheating Forum, they should be free to discuss their suspicions. We have a number of teams here, and Super-Administrators, who harbor cheaters.
Jan 28, 2016
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#15
This topic wasn't really intended to be about this site. But whatever.
enjoy the game & make it fair
Jan 28, 2016
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#17
TheFutur wrote:
metizorr wrote:
That being understood, we must turn to the next point: cheating is not that widespread on chess.com. In fact, those who claim cheating is widespread do not understand cheating well at all. I do not think of cheating at all when I lose, and so it might as well not exist. Understadning this is the key to your chess happiness Metizzor, Au Revoire!
Cheating is very widespread on chess.com, but of course, having created your account yesterday, you're not very aware of what happens here.
It's thanks to the efforts of people like Jamie and a few others that chess.com is not completely corrupted by cheaters.
Jan 29, 2016
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#18
Jamie,
First thing first: everyone needs to read something about the author of this article
http://polarbearspalaver.blogspot.ru/2011/06/blacklist-of-active-known-chess.html
Second: Capablanca never met Stalin. You can also check the games of 1935 and 1936 Moscow tournaments and see that talks about quick draws are not true.
As always, you quote dubious sourses without due research.
BISHOP_e3 wrote:
Jamie, Who bought you that premium CROWN account?
You mean Queen Jamie
An article from chessmaniac.com:
http://www.chessmaniac.com/cheating-and-chess/
Perhaps the first known case of cheating is when King Canute (990-1035) tried to put a captured chess piece back on the board. The dispute over this cheating move led King Canute to murder his brother-in-law, the Earl of Ulf.
In January 1880, at the 5th American Chess Congress in New York, Preston Ware (1821-1890), a wealthy banker of Boston, testified to the tournament committee that his last-round opponent, James Grundy (1855-1919) of England, offered him $20 if he agreed to play for a draw in their game that had been adjourned. A draw would give Grundy, who needed the money, at least 2nd place prize money. Ware agreed, but complained that Grundy then reneged on the deal and went on to win the game in 64 moves, and tied for 1st place (with George Mackenzie). 1st place was $500 and 2nd place was $300. Grundy lost the playoff match with Mackenzie to take 2nd. When Grundy admitted his guilt, he was forbidden from ever again taking part in an American tournament. Grundy played in other tournaments, but under false names. Ware was suspended by the American Chess Association for one year from playing chess. Preston Ware didn’t need the money, but agreed to the shady deal because he wanted his friend, Captain George Mackenzie, to take first place.
In 1913, at a tournament in Havana, Charles Jaffe (1879-1941) drew his game with Frank Marshall (1877-1944) in the first round, and later, lost his next game to Marshall, blundering away his queen for a rook and then promptly resigned. Jose Capablanca (1888-1942), who lost to Marshall and Jaffe, charged that Jaffe intentionally lost his game to Marshall so that Marshall would win the tournament ahead of Capablanca. It was alleged that Capablanca influenced tournament organizers in the USA and Cuba so that Jaffe would be unable to be invited or play in major tournaments after this, especially tournaments in which Capablanca was playing. Jaffe never played again in a tournament where Capablanca also participated.
In 1932, Sir John Simon (1873-1954), in a speech in Cambridge, said, “…Nobody can cheat in chess. So far as I know, it is the only game in the world in which it is impossible to cheat.” History proved him wrong.
In 1935, Ilya Rabinovich (1891-1942) was ordered to lose against Mikhail Botvinnik (1911-1995), to ensure that Botvinnik took 1st place at a Moscow tournament. Botvinnik refused to go along with the plan, saying, “…then I will myself put a piece en prise and resign.” The plan was aborted, the game was drawn, and Botvinnik shared 1st place with Salo Flohr (1908-1983) of Czechoslovakia. Rabinovich tied for 11th-14th. Earlier, Flohr had proposed to Botvinnik that they both draw their final game and share 1st place. It was Botvinnik’s first success in international chess.
In the 1936, Stalin met Capablanca and asked the chess master how he liked the tournament he was playing in the USSR. Capablanca replied, “It’s terrible. Your players are cheating.” Stalin then said, “What do you mean?” Capablanca replied, “When they play against each other, the Soviets make quick draws and they get to rest. When they play against me, they fight on and on just to make me tired.” After the conversation, the cheating stopped immediately.
Full article at the link above