Nothing wrong in National Pride so long one is not jealous of any other nation.
I'm jealous of Belgium. Is that wrong?
Nothing wrong in National Pride so long one is not jealous of any other nation.
I'm jealous of Belgium. Is that wrong?
Dear Jenkins12,
That hurt quite a bit. Even as a joke.
Yeah, maybe it did, but it also hurts when your national cricket team is going through a "rebuilding phase" and is in real danger of losing to the likes of [*wince*] England this northern summer. That sad, pitiful reality made me hit out and say some unkind words.
Dear HotFlow,
Our Parliament Building in New Delhi has as a decoration a carving in stone saying in Sanskrit " Ayam Nijah Paro Veti Ganana Laghuchetasam,Udarcharitanam Tu Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam " meaning " This person is mine , that one is a Foreigner is the sort of counting indulged in by the small minded. For the Broad Minded the entire universe is his family." Alas,History is brutal and quickly teaches people to band together as a nation in order to survive. We Indians are quite fed up of being counted as a second class or third class nation and being trampled upon for no reason inspite of being friendly and generous with every body including invaders.Hence my outburst.
Your interpretation of the sanskrit verse is exactly my interpretation too.It was the intention of the people who planned to instal this carving to emphasize the oneness of Mankind. Unfortunately, for this Idealism to work out in real life,every person/nation needs to be broad minded. India was,is and has always been broad minded. It is the insults,patronising attitudes and rough treatment by other nationalities that rankles. Indians can take it so far and no farther and hence my outburst.
"Batgirl is a literary terrorist, who hides behind a mask of trepidation and mendacity."
Actually, the mask is imaginary lycro, not metaphorical nonsense.
Hi Batgirl,
I like masks. Olivia Vlahos wrote:
"We can hardly think of ourselves as beings separate from our social identities. For whatever is uniquely ours--personality, inner--self is inevitably shaped by the parts we play, by the invisible masks. The very word for "person" derives from persona, the Latin word for mask, and through it to the Greek prosopon, which is both mask and face. As Shakespeare wrote:"
All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts.
So true.
Haha: People are sooo funny. Translation: You hide behind a mask because you tremble in fear and you are a liar. What the hell does that mean really? A bunch of words with no substance or fact behind them. Everything I've ever read of yours (Batgirl's) was appropriately researched and supported.
Dear Beelzebub666,
India's GDP is estimated to rise by about 7% in FY 2008-2009, next only to China.
The GDPs of so called G-10 ( forget G-20) economies are not rising but contracting.
Please do read about British Economy in the14th Feb.edition of the Economist.
As regards, invention of Chess or Zero,please let me have your sources for any claimant other than India i.e any other "older variant".
No, you are wrong. It is next only to China for growth only if you are considering the G-20, not if you are considering, as you explicitly stated you were, the World.
I'm well aware of the current issues with Britain's (and India's) economy, unlike you though I do not look at my country's history or present with rose tinted spectacles.
Caturanga developed in parts of what was to become India (once the British united it under one rule), similar games were present in Persia, and the modern chess we play developed from it in Europe. The information of that last sentence is clearly not contained in 'India invented chess', a gross simplification designed to stroke your odd nationalist ego.
Zero as a concept was well known in ancient Greece and was used in South America long before contact with the Old World. That takes nothing away from the Indian scholars whose use of it reached the west via Islamic scholars of course, but again your simplification is puerile. You are like the Chinese man who ignores their political faults and current subjugations, or the English man who pretends the British Empire was entirely benevolent. When you have 300 million people in poverty, naturally you can grow quickly when you finally get round to modernising. I only wish for their sake that you could grow faster, and see past the religious tensions.
"Translation: You hide behind a mask because you tremble in fear and you are a liar."
That's what I meant by metaphorical nonsense.
"No response batgirl?"
I'm sorry 666, I didn't see your previous posting. Once again from the top. One can notice and note many things without any of those things being a revelation. I could note that America's pre-emptive strike on Iraq in 2002 was a paradox (the word paradox can have many meanings. The meaning I'm ascribing to it here is that of a contradiction between what one might expect and what actually happened). I'm certainly not surprised by the paradox since the history of America is filled with paradoxes, but I can note the paradox, as I just did. This isn't to say that being surprised by the existence of a paradox isn't possible - just that noting one doesn't preclude surprise or some national naivity, which was your assumption as I understood it.
"No response batgirl?"
I'm sorry 666, I didn't see your previous posting. Once again from the top. One can notice and note many things without any of those things being a revelation. I could note that America's pre-emptive strike on Iraq in 2002 was a paradox (the word paradox can have many meanings. The meaning I'm ascribing to it here is that of a contradiction between what one might expect and what actually happened). I'm certainly not surprised by the paradox since the history of America is filled with paradoxes, but I can note the paradox, as I just did. This isn't to say that being surprised by the existence of a paradox isn't possible - just that noting one doesn't preclude surprise or some national naivity, which was your assumption as I understood it.
So you're defining it as a contradiction between expectation and result, also known as a surprise. I don't see it as a paradox in any sense, because I do not have expectations that US foreign policy should follow the ideals rather than interests of the US. For you to view it as a paradox at all necessarily supports my initial statement that you took exception to. Why, without national naivety or surprise, would you consider it a paradox at all?
The paradox is in the contradiction between America's expressed beliefs and it's actions at times. The paradox has nothing to do with me and exists beyond my involvement. So, it is what it is, not how I view it or how you view it.
My view, however, is that this horse has been beaten cruelly to death.
Caissa Caissa is the "patron goddess" of chess players.
Caissa is the "patron goddess" of chess players.
She was created in a poem called Caïssa written in 1763 by English poet and philologist Sir William Jones.
In the poem, the god Mars falls in love with the goddess Caissa, portrayed as a Thracian dryad. Caissa rebuffs his advances and suggests he take solace in the company of the god Euphron—the god of sport. After hearing Mars' laments, Euphron
...fram'd a tablet of celestial mold,
Inlay'd with squares of silver and of gold;
Then of two metals form'd the warlike band,
That here compact in show of battle stand;
He taught the rules that guide the pensive game,
And call'd it Caissa from the dryad's name:
(Whence Albion's sons, who most its praise confess,
Approv'd the play, and nam'd it thoughtful Chess.)
Mars then presents the game of chess to Caissa in an attempt to win her affection.
Jones' work was inspired by the poem Scacchia ludus ("The game of Chess"), written by Italian poet Marco Girolamo Vida in 1510.
For chess players, Caissa is often invoked as a source of inspiration or luck, e.g. "Caissa was with me in that game."
Caissa is also spelled Caïssa.
you mean invented, not created.
There has indeed been a lot of twisting and turning on your part over a fairly irrelevant piece of semantics. Yet you really cannot avoid it, you perceive a paradox because of your American perception of America's expressed beliefs. You are stating your perceptions in calling it a paradox rather than viewing it as I do as par for the course.
You don't leave a horse just because you've beaten it to death, there's glue in them thar bones.
Dear Beelzebub666,
Do you expect eternal thanks from us Indians to the Hon.East India Co. and its successor the British Kingdom( it was not yet an empire) for "uniting" India under "one rule"? India is a sub continent and not a piddling "Shire" and there were several Sovereign States in the subcontinent at the time the British enslaved us.Truly the Imperialistic Mindset does not seem to have died out. We do not need patronising comments regarding Chess or Zero or snide remarks on our poor.I have seen enough beggars and drunks in London. Let me tell you that the coming days belong to India and China and not any Imperialist.
There has indeed been a lot of twisting and turning on your part over a fairly irrelevant piece of semantics. Yet you really cannot avoid it, you perceive a paradox because of your American perception of America's expressed beliefs. You are stating your perceptions in calling it a paradox rather than viewing it as I do as par for the course.
You don't leave a horse just because you've beaten it to death, there's glue in them thar bones.
Are you joking or what? Any contortions on my part involved finding different ways to convey a quite simple concept in a way you could understand it. But it seems a futile endeavor since an issue with you doesn't seem to be so much the ability to understand but the contentious refusal to do the same.
Dear Beelzebub666,
Do you expect eternal thanks from us Indians to the Hon.East India Co. and its successor the British Kingdom( it was not yet an empire) for "uniting" India under "one rule"? India is a sub continent and not a piddling "Shire" and there were several Sovereign States in the subcontinent at the time the British enslaved us.Truly the Imperialistic Mindset does not seem to have died out. We do not need patronising comments regarding Chess or Zero or snide remarks on our poor.I have seen enough beggars and drunks in London. Let me tell you that the coming days belong to India and China and not any Imperialist.
Now you are projecting your own faults onto me, I as I already said, am under no illusions about the past or present of my own country, I have no imperialistic mindset. The tiny number of homeless in London still have access to healthcare, and though something went badly wrong for them, did have access to education. There's really no comparison to the 300 million in poverty in India and your attempt to equate the two is again down to your unwillingness to look at the reality of your own country, which is also why you find it offensive to make what are accurate statements about it.
the link I presented you clearly presented information on the rate of growth in GDP, not total GDP.