Racism on live chess

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Gilded_Candlelight
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netzach
joeschmo123 wrote:

Im the foolish boy,I get it.36 minutes ago · Quote · #455

 

What actually meant was if fearful of narrow-mindeness, in your own neighborhood or worldwide, then expand your outlook and remedy can be found.

Homo-sapiens are thankfully one species.

Stevie65
ivandh wrote:

I think the mods are taking bets on how far this will go.

It would be worth finding out who the racists are..Racists are easy to spot,they can't help showing there inclinations,esp. the young ones.

SPARTANEMESIS
joeschmo123 wrote:

It can be justified, is all Im saying.You not understanding this just shows how prejudice you are against racists.Which is another form of intollerence.

It can be justified be ignorant idiots.  And I have little to no tolerance for them.  I also am intolerant of murderers, rapists... the list goes on.

GenghisCant

The more I look around, the more I think some murderers might actually have a point.

Ruby-Fischer

Yeah, well in some cases there are mitigating factors...

Gilded_Candlelight
SPARTANEMESIS wrote:
joeschmo123 wrote:

It can be justified, is all Im saying.You not understanding this just shows how prejudice you are against racists.Which is another form of intollerence.

It can be justified be ignorant idiots.  And I have little to no tolerance for them.  I also am intolerant of murderers, rapists... the list goes on.

I think I posted earlier that discrimination is not the problem, unmerited discrimination is the problem. So being intolerant of racist is not an issue. See, trolling is easy because it requires no consistency. You can take a position and then manipulate the position according to the environment. It's like playing cc take back chess, while your opponent plays a blitz touch and move. Unless you actually believe it can be justified joeschmo, in which case you have a poor grasp of logic and reality. 

A) All choices are a form discrimination

B) All humans make choices

C) All  humans discriminate in some form

It is redundant to have the word discriminate and choices unless there is a form of discrimination which is intrinsically different from the others. 

A) Some discrimination is merited

B) Some discrimination is unmerited

C) Unmerited discrimination is intrinsically different from merited discrimination

So unmerited discrimination is not the same as merited discrimination. The way we know it is different it because it has a measurable effect, a negative one at that. 

A) Race is not a taxonomic term applying to humans.

B) Racism is discrimination based on race.

C) Since race does not apply to humans, racism is unmerited discrimination

Since racism is unmerited discrimination then racist doing the world a measurable disservice. 

SPARTANEMESIS

I heard that.

Gilded_Candlelight

just to be sure I was really  quoting joeschmo, Spartan, I was just lazy to find his post lol. 

SPARTANEMESIS

I know.

astronomer999
Gilded_Candlelight wrote:
at. 

A) Race is not a taxonomic term applying to humans.

B) Racism is discrimination based on race.

C) Since race does not apply to humans, racism is unmerited discrimination

Since racism is unmerited discrimination then racist doing the world a measurable disservice. 

So now we've moved on to speciesism. If you refuse to apply the concept of race to humans, you are saying that humans are in some essential way different from other organisms. That's unscientific.

Or do you think that a Clydesdale and a quarterhorse are the same thing.

netzach

The Ginger-tomcat does not do battle with the Black-tomcat becuase they are different in appearance astronomer.

They do so because of territorial defensiveness.

A Clydesdale and a Quarterhorse are indeed the same-thing, as is an inhabitant, of Tenant-creek or Sydney despite outward appearances. 

Gilded_Candlelight
astronomer999 wrote:
Gilded_Candlelight wrote:
at. 

A) Race is not a taxonomic term applying to humans.

B) Racism is discrimination based on race.

C) Since race does not apply to humans, racism is unmerited discrimination

Since racism is unmerited discrimination then racist doing the world a measurable disservice. 

So now we've moved on to speciesism. If you refuse to apply the concept of race to humans, you are saying that humans are in some essential way different from other organisms. That's unscientific.

Or do you think that a Clydesdale and a quarterhorse are the same thing.

you are an idiot. None the less I will explain, because I enjoy letting other people laugh at you. 

A) Race, species, sub-species etc are taxonomic classifications

B) Taxonomic classifications exist to distinguish different organisms

C) All organisms have a classification, but some organisms, having a broader variation taxonomically (By scientific standards), are given more (numerically higher in number) classifications. 

D) If a organism can be sufficiently classified without further taxonomical classification it is, as adding classification would be redundant (a word you still dont comprehend.

E) Humans do not have race, since it is sufficient to explain their classification with Homo sapiens sapiens (the latter sapiens being the sub-species). 

 

If you insist on being an idiot, please feel free to hate our sub-species brothers Homo sapiens idaltu, though it seems someone already did. You are so stupid I am amazed you can live independently and by yourself. Notice how you are not arguing with me, but with ALL OF ACCEPTED BIOLOGY. Even so, I am glad  you are back, there was just too much intelligent discussion going on. 

Gilded_Candlelight
joeschmo123 wrote:

I agree, with that 100%.discriminating against races does a disservice to the world.This however, is exactly the way the world is.With that said I simply said that it is justifiable(to them at least). If it were not then there would be no racism in the world. I generally feel sorry for racist people, I dont choose to live with hate for anyone,but that is my choice.Everyone has that choice and I can see why some people choose racism. Either by learned behavior or circumstances. 

then we are agreed. I think my use is archaic but acceptable. 

delete92
Gilded_Candlelight wrote:
astronomer999 wrote:
Gilded_Candlelight wrote:
at. 

A) Race is not a taxonomic term applying to humans.

B) Racism is discrimination based on race.

C) Since race does not apply to humans, racism is unmerited discrimination

Since racism is unmerited discrimination then racist doing the world a measurable disservice. 

So now we've moved on to speciesism. If you refuse to apply the concept of race to humans, you are saying that humans are in some essential way different from other organisms. That's unscientific.

Or do you think that a Clydesdale and a quarterhorse are the same thing.

you are an idiot. None the less I will explain, because I enjoy letting other people laugh at you. 

A) Race, species, sub-species etc are taxonomic classifications

B) Taxonomic classifications exist to distinguish different organisms

C) All organisms have a classification, but some organisms, having a broader variation taxonomically (By scientific standards), are given more (numerically higher in number) classifications. 

D) If a organism can be sufficiently classified without further taxonomical classification it is, as adding classification would be redundant (a word you still dont comprehend.

E) Humans do not have race, since it is sufficient to explain their classification with Homo sapiens sapiens (the latter sapiens being the sub-species). 

 

If you insist on being an idiot, please feel free to hate our sub-species brothers Homo sapiens idaltu, though it seems someone already did. You are so stupid I am amazed you can live independently and by yourself. Notice how you are not arguing with me, but with ALL OF ACCEPTED BIOLOGY. Even so, I am glad  you are back, there was just too much intelligent discussion going on. 


I would love there to be a world without racism

I've experienced first hand racism that has gone a lot further than just name calling or other verbal abuse - and some of my friends have come off even worse than I have

However - while we are perhaps not scientifically different - society, culture, religion, geography and history all play a huge role in both seperating and defining us all

Personally I think this difference is a good thing that add variety to the world and makes the human race a much richer thing for these differences

Unfortunately my view isn't shared by all - and that is where racism becomes an issue

astronomer999
Gilded_Candlelight wrote:
astronomer999 wrote:
Gilded_Candlelight wrote:
at. 

A) Race is not a taxonomic term applying to humans.

B) Racism is discrimination based on race.

C) Since race does not apply to humans, racism is unmerited discrimination

Since racism is unmerited discrimination then racist doing the world a measurable disservice. 

So now we've moved on to speciesism. If you refuse to apply the concept of race to humans, you are saying that humans are in some essential way different from other organisms. That's unscientific.

Or do you think that a Clydesdale and a quarterhorse are the same thing.

you are an idiot. None the less I will explain, because I enjoy letting other people laugh at you. 

A) Race, species, sub-species etc are taxonomic classifications

B) Taxonomic classifications exist to distinguish different organisms

C) All organisms have a classification, but some organisms, having a broader variation taxonomically (By scientific standards), are given more (numerically higher in number) classifications. 

D) If a organism can be sufficiently classified without further taxonomical classification it is, as adding classification would be redundant (a word you still dont comprehend.

E) Humans do not have race, since it is sufficient to explain their classification with Homo sapiens sapiens (the latter sapiens being the sub-species). 

 

If you insist on being an idiot, please feel free to hate our sub-species brothers Homo sapiens idaltu, though it seems someone already did. You are so stupid I am amazed you can live independently and by yourself. Notice how you are not arguing with me, but with ALL OF ACCEPTED BIOLOGY. Even so, I am glad  you are back, there was just too much intelligent discussion going on. 

All you have said is that you will stop classification at an arbitrary point.

Sadly, biological science goes further, thus we have campaigns to preserve particular populations of species with the aim of ensuring genetic diversity within that species. That's positive discrimination.

And in human biology, medicine is progressing to the point of using race as an indicator of probability of disease. It's called epidemiology.

PS I'm glad to see that you're achieving consistent orthographic outcomes today

Gilded_Candlelight
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delete92

regardless of whether science classes us as different - rightly or wrongly some people class humans they perceive as different in a negative way and (whether or not its scientifically correct) people use the word "race" and the word "racism" to explain these "differences" - and the way some people react when confronted with people they dont see as the same as themselves - be this verbal or physical abuse

i doubt calling them idiots is likely to change their view

Gilded_Candlelight
soorat wrote:

regardless of whether science classes us as different - rightly or wrongly some people class humans they perceive as different in a negative way and (whether or not its scientifically correct) people use the word "race" and the word "racism" to explain these "differences" - and the way some people react when confronted with people they dont see as the same as themselves - be this verbal or physical abuse

i doubt calling them idiots is likely to change their view

No, it will not, but it's fun to use logic to explain why they are wrong. I use rhetorics like calling them idiot because I feel it is ironic. I am calling him an idiot, not for his ignorance, but because he chooses to be irrational and so should be met with some level of irrationality. 

astronomer999
Gilded_Candlelight wrote:

 I know you will learn to read one day. High five man :) come on, give me a high five!

HI V? .....I haven't got it, but I'm sure you will.

My God, give a boy a hammer and he'll bang it all day

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