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Avatar of Oneflewoverthecuckoosnest

I've never played in a chess club, and haven't played that much against people apart from on the internet, certainly not competitively. I was wondering about ratings. Does anyone have any idea how your online "turn-based" chess rating would compare to a real life one. Obviously online there is no pressure, you can overlook your moves for a lot longer etc. Does it depend on the player or could you say it is ususally for example 100 points lower. 

Avatar of kungfoodchef

your online rating will be higher than your real rating.

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kungfoodchef wrote:

your online rating will be higher than your real rating.

Would you say there is an average for how much lower, generally speaking?

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im not really sure but mabey like a hundred points or so but im not sureLaughing . mine online rating is like 50 points higher than my USCF rating

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mate if you are in team england look in our forum, there is a thread called 'whats your ecf?' in there you will find all our real ratings and you can then compare those to the peoples online ratings, hope this helps :-)
Avatar of Oneflewoverthecuckoosnest

cheers

Avatar of ELBEASTO

My online rating is 500 pts higher than my real one, but maybe I'm just underrated :D

Avatar of Raibutai

They really don't compare... In the "turn based" chess, or correspondence chess, you have access to all resources except for chess engines. This makes a correspondence player's rating inflate by who knows how much. You will have a much better time trying to compare a Live Chess rating to a real life one.

But... Some people's ratings will be lower because of random disconnection from Live Chess, and the other way around with some higher rated players who get lucky.

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Anywhere from 50 to 500 points higher here. Mine's the same right now -- 1800 --, but frankly I'm not trying to win here. A few more months if I ever get my game back fully I might.

I find that very few under 2000 players here unserstand anything at all about endings. Generally I find the 1600-1800 player here around 1200-1600 OTB. I just played a player in mid-1800's that totally blew a won bishop and pawn endgame. He had no idea how to play it. I've had a 1750 player offer me a draw thinking it was when I had a R&K vs his K. These are things all 1600 otb players know. Most 1400 players do. It goes on and on.

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well this might give you something to think about, i am rated 2025 OTB, but usually only 1800-1900 on here :-)
Avatar of Oneflewoverthecuckoosnest

I think online I've noticed some players may have a rating of say 1800 but if you look at the average opponent rating, it is sometimes a lot lower than theirs, so by playing weaker players, they slowly build up perhaps an "untrue" ,for want of a better word, rating.

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nickel1356 wrote:

I think generally about 200 points higher on correspondence.  as food for thought I think if you are older the difference is greater!!  if I had to play many of these younger players (I am 66) over-the-board I would lose many but if I have time to think about each move I seem to hold my own much of the time... any one else see it this way??


 I'm nearly 48 and I'd rather play most of my chess.com opponents OTB. I think lower strength players do better here because they too can play through many lines at their leisure, but OTB I think a lack of positional sense really hurts quickly.

Avatar of Grakovsky

I don't think comparing internet ratings with real life ratings is fair. In real life, there is always time pressure and there is a person sitting in front of you waiting for a move. In the internet, you can think up to two weeks for one move and obviously it will blow up your rating. Therefore, there is no connection between your ratings online and ratings from real tournaments etc.

Avatar of nimbleswitch

As per Raibutai's comment, OTB vs CC (which turn-based is a type of) is apples and oranges. We've got people here who take CC very seriously and excel at using the various resources available, so they're CC rating will be much higher than their OTB rating. But we've also got a lot of people who don't get into the spirit of CC at all, but rather try to play it like OTB. They'll be giving away advantages to the more serious CC players and so they're likely to have a lower turn-based rating than their OTB rating.

I'm sure, though, that more often than not the CC rating will be higher, particularly if the player takes both forms seriously.

In my case, I haven't had an OTB rating in decades, but I have to believe my Chess.com turn-based rating would be 500 points higher than my current USCF OTB rating, if I still had one.

Avatar of immortalgamer

Just to chime in here too.  I think people's averages on "online chess" are just so much more manipulated than live OTB chess.  You can play hundreds of games per day and have 100 point swings one way or the other.

The 1700 rated player might be 1250 the next day because they up'd the competition level.

I think that a pretty true rating level is if someone is staying within 10 to 40 rating points from their highest peak. Then factor in their average skill level they are playing against and you've got a good idea of how good that person is.

I know I've played people rated 1200 here who are better than people rated 1700.  In the end OTB is really the only true test of how good any of us are.