Rating/Feelling diff chesscom vs lichess

Another question (https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/game-threatened-to-stop-before-time-ran-out):

Why do you forum users think that I have much easier matches at 1700+ blitz with lichess compared to getting crushed on 1100-1200 on chesscom?

The best comparison site i found rates 1200 chesscom 'not comparabale with any fide rating' and 1300 with around 1600 elo. lichess 1700+ is supposed to be higher than both. so why chesscom games feel so much harder?

Are there a lot of bots playing?

chess.com games feel much easier. I easily crush 2000s on this site while lichess 2000 is much harder.

Why do you feel that is? I know that it kinda equals out towards higher ratings, which means the curve is much steeper for lichess.

How so? It's pretty much the only serious one I could find. Do you know better?

I can substract, too But it's not that easy, compare the post I answered to before.

Still doesn't answer the fact that while 500 artificial points of difference for me, games feel much different, still.

Nobody commented on bots, yet....

Dude i just reached 500 on chess.com, IT FELT LIKE FOREVER REACHING 500, in lichess it took me less than 30 mins to reach 500.

It took me like... a year

> Rating/Feelling diff chesscom vs lichess

The higher the chess skill the more equal ratings are on chess.com and lichess

The lower the chess skill the more difference between ratings on chess.com and lichess (lichess rating is higher)

Lichess has smaller community, probably with bigger fraction of high-skilled players

Lichess has 400 or 600 points (not sure which exactly) as the floor rating while chess.com has 100

There might be also the difference brought by rating systems used on chess.com and lichess (like Glicko-1 and Glicko-2)

I just played my first ever official tournament (won U1300 prize!!) with a performance of over 1600. Given it was classical and is hard to compare, but I think 1100 on chess.com is bs, or theres a lot of cheaters/bots.

Only those who spend considerable time on both sites can know how their own ratings are inflated/deflated. My blitz and rapid ratings have shifted over time and are now higher on this site. When I study my rating, and that of my opponents on Lichess in the 1600-1800 blitz range on lichess, I notice a steady decline over the past two years of at least 100-200 pts. in blitz. Check it out yourselves. What could account for this? Perhaps Lichess is quietly matching their system to this one?

Imagine 'quietly' doing anything about the rating system... that would be horrible! I have considerable 3+2 matches on both, about to add a 3rd with

my rating is about 1100 on chesscom and 1600 on lichess. i dropped 100 points on both recently, so it fits pretty well. FIDE classical is 1700+

Why won't those sites use elo? Those numbers are basically meaningless, and I still have the feeling mistakes on chesscom are basically never happening on my level. Like you know that theres a dude on the other hand, distracted, out of real life time, angry, etc. I'm still convinced 50% I play here are bots. I don't want to play bots.

i would estimate at least 90% of players in the lower rating player pool are bots

This is quantifiably untrue. The mathematical difference of what it takes to increase your ELO by 100 points is effectively zero. You basically need to average 8.5 wins per every 10 games played to increase by 100.

It's my opinion that there are better players on Chess.com, and a 400-800 ELO on Chess.com is better than 400-800 on Lichess; but you're still a 400-800 ELO either way.

I am close to 1000 Blitz in 5 minute games on Lichess, and my statistics are very similar, yet I am about 550 in 5 min Blitz on Chess.com. I struggle vs. certain variations more than others because I am prepared better to play against certain responses and variations. I've noticed that I see less of the variations that I struggle with on Lichess, but often the variations I have played on this site, the moves are so bad, it takes me out of my comfort zone and lose on time because I am not figuring out the best responses until its too late and lose on time.

But Lichess does not have inflated ELO. Simple math, you don't get more ELO for winning there vs. Chess.com, you have to win the same percentage of the time to maintain and/or improve.