And as for comparison to ratings here, they're (IMHO) a little deflated in blitz compared to OTB. I'm pretty bad at faster time controls though. Most masters I've seen are rated at least 2000-2100 (meaning national masters) while their OTB ratings are 2200-2300, so it seems to be the same for most anyone. Unless they're just a blitz monster
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Mar 22, 2017
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TalSpin wrote:
USCF 1989 QR 1921 just came back to tournament play at the end of last year, first OTB rated game in over 10 years. My RD is still fairly high due to inactivity though, so it's likely to fluctuate depending on future results.
USCF doesn't use RD.
Mar 22, 2017
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Mozeg wrote:
Just saying that people who believe there is "no" and 0 correlation between chess.com and OTB ratings R also saying that their chances in an OTB game against a 2500 blitz chess.com member is the same as against a player rated 800. People who have a higher blitz rating will obviously be better OTB. Is it a linear 1:1 relationship? Probably not but of course they r correlated.
Percentile is probably a little better measure than rating for estimations.
Mar 22, 2017
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Mozeg wrote:
Just saying that people who believe there is "no" and 0 correlation between chess.com and OTB ratings R also saying that their chances in an OTB game against a 2500 blitz chess.com member is the same as against a player rated 800. People who have a higher blitz rating will obviously be better OTB. Is it a linear 1:1 relationship? Probably not but of course they r correlated.
Read the other threads on the topic.
Your rating could be much higher here, or much lower.
There is probably a range that correlates, however. For instance, a 1600 USCF would not be 800 in blitz on this site, but could be anywhere from 1200 to 2000.
Mar 22, 2017
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#46
Ziryab wrote:
For instance, a 1600 USCF would not be 800 in blitz on this site, but could be anywhere from 1200 to 2000.
IMO that's a little misleading. If their USCF is underrated, or if they never play blitz, that can cause some oddities.
But if they play both tournament and blitz regularly, then you're not going to have a 1600 USCF have a 1200 or a 2000 chess.com blitz rating.
Mar 22, 2017
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The_Chin_Of_Quinn wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
For instance, a 1600 USCF would not be 800 in blitz on this site, but could be anywhere from 1200 to 2000.
IMO that's a little misleading. If their USCF is underrated, or if they never play blitz, that can cause some oddities.
But if they play both tournament and blitz regularly, then you're not going to have a 1600 USCF have a 1200 or a 2000 chess.com blitz rating.
Read the other threads. There are such people.
A good friend of mine who runs our local tournaments has been between 1500 and 1700 since 1999. He is usually close to 1600, but has a USCF peak of 1788. He certainly plays OTB regularly. His blitz rating on this site is 1255. I see him posting his chess.com games regularly on Facebook.
He does not play thousands of online blitz games per year, but he plays often enough.
Uh Ziryab, in response #9 to Platzerwasel you wrote "There is no correlation".
Another blanket statement that people often write is "Chess is 90% tactics", which I believe is true for maybe an OTB rating of less than 1200. Tactics seem to become less important as rating rises.
Mar 22, 2017
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Tactics are latent in games of higher rated players too. Just because the tactics may get performed less often, they are there, if the wrong moves are made.
And I would say sub 2000, most games are lost due to tactical misses, in most cases.
Mar 22, 2017
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Ziryab wrote:
The_Chin_Of_Quinn wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
For instance, a 1600 USCF would not be 800 in blitz on this site, but could be anywhere from 1200 to 2000.
IMO that's a little misleading. If their USCF is underrated, or if they never play blitz, that can cause some oddities.
But if they play both tournament and blitz regularly, then you're not going to have a 1600 USCF have a 1200 or a 2000 chess.com blitz rating.
Read the other threads. There are such people.
A good friend of mine who runs our local tournaments has been between 1500 and 1700 since 1999. He is usually close to 1600, but has a USCF peak of 1788. He certainly plays OTB regularly. His blitz rating on this site is 1255. I see him posting his chess.com games regularly on Facebook.
He does not play thousands of online blitz games per year, but he plays often enough.
That's surprising to me.
daxypoo wrote:
are chess tournaments generally more than one match? or is it- lose and you're out? regardless, i would need some real "otb" experience before tackling a tournament environment
Yes, you generally play more than 1 match. You can look up quad and swiss tournament formats, those are popular formats.
The best way to get OTB tournament experience is to join a chess club geared towards playing tournaments. These clubs usually review games and lecture in addition to play (tournament rules are enforced).
Mar 22, 2017
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#52
My highest blitz rating here came from playing against the computer players early on. Playing against regular players, I struggle to stay above 1300. My RD is high, since I don't play a ton of Live, but as the time control drops, I blunder a lot more and lose on time a lot. I'm within the 300 point range of my OTB but I don't think that is at all uncommon.
Mozeg wrote:
Just saying that people who believe there is "no" and 0 correlation between chess.com and OTB ratings R also saying that their chances in an OTB game against a 2500 blitz chess.com member is the same as against a player rated 800. People who have a higher blitz rating will obviously be better OTB. Is it a linear 1:1 relationship? Probably not but of course they r correlated.
There is definitely a correlation between chess.com and USCF ratings.
Most of the kids in my son's chess club also play on chess.com and their ratings correlate. Since the club is geared towards tournament play, almost all kids have USCF ratings except the new or very beginner members.
Mar 22, 2017
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Mozeg wrote:
Uh Ziryab, in response #9 to Platzerwasel you wrote "There is no correlation".
Another blanket statement that people often write is "Chess is 90% tactics", which I believe is true for maybe an OTB rating of less than 1200. Tactics seem to become less important as rating rises.
Yes. I also understood my comment to be hyperbole. Not every reader understood that trope, however, so I've modified my assertion a little.
It is a very old topic that's been treated hundreds of times in these chess forums. Back when Moses was still wandering in the desert, I wrote http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2009/05/rating-estimation.html
For those who believe regular tactics training is the key to a 2000+ rating, here's a little cold water. My son has about a 1900 rating on both chess.com and chess tempo (mixed). His OTB rating is just over 1400, and he plays an OTB tournament game almost once per week in the local club so its a valid rating. (BTW he has not played online in about a year, he doesn't like blitz or short time limits so the bad blitz games and 1400 rating is mine). I can still beat him OTB yet I have a 5% success rate solving his Tempo puzzles which are now mostly in the 1800 to 2100 range.
And its not because the tactic is missed in a game situation. Putting his games through an engine it seems those tactical opportunities are very uncommon when playing opponents his rating or higher. Most of the games are grinding and seem to be decided by inaccuracies building to a greater lead.
Mar 22, 2017
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@mozeg 1900 tactics rating is in fact, very close to an estimated 1400 OTB rating - in fact, I'd expect a 1400 FIDE player to score 2000+ on tactics, if he/she is serious about solving them. Chess.com tactics ratings are extremely overrated.
On chesstempo too, I definitely don't expect my tactics rating, which I believe was at least 2200-2300 the last time I used it (when I was under 2000 OTB), to be equal to my actual OTB rating.
I'm 1118 in USCF. Next tournament is on the first. I usually go 1 win 2 losses, since all my opponents are higher rated at my club.
Cherub_Enjel wrote:
@mozeg 1900 tactics rating is in fact, very close to an estimated 1400 OTB rating - in fact, I'd expect a 1400 FIDE player to score 2000+ on tactics, if he/she is serious about solving them. Chess.com tactics ratings are extremely overrated.
On chesstempo too, I definitely don't expect my tactics rating, which I believe was at least 2200-2300 the last time I used it (when I was under 2000 OTB), to be equal to my actual OTB rating.
Exactly my point. As there are also currently many FM's and IM's that are in the 2000 to 2200 range there seems to be a diminishing significance for tactical ability as the ratings rise. I believe its because better players make far less mistakes. Even at a 1400 level OTB those exotic tactical situations that put u a piece ahead are quite uncommon.
USCF 1989 QR 1921 just came back to tournament play at the end of last year, first OTB rated game in over 10 years. My RD is still fairly high due to inactivity though, so it's likely to fluctuate depending on future results.