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JBabkes

I have practiced Law for 40 years, my observation I can assure you is valid and accurate 

llamonade

My brother got a lawyer once. He was advised to plead guilty to stuff he didn't do.

JBabkes

Well I can say without qualification that your brother did not hire me or any attorney that I am personally acquainted with lol. There are a lot of poor attorneys and over the years I have had a lot of experience dealing with some of them.

llamonade

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krudsparov
EndgameStudier wrote:
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

Police aren't suppose to go faster than the fastest vehicle traveling about them. It's against code & guild.

They say it's one a those rule typa rules.

Cops are not allowed to exceed the speed limit unless they have lights or sirens on (with the exception of Code 1) and even that may limit them to 20 mph over the speed limit in those cases. I have a couple videos on my channel with cops speeding by me for apparently no reason, on roads they ticket people on.

I got a lift a few years back by 2 cops to recover a stolen van and they shot through a built up area at more than double the the speed limit. What cops are allowed to do and what they actually do are 2 different things, no doubt they've issued tickets for drivers going slightly over the limit, hypocrites!!

Mr_Alex_Pims
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AustinXJet

Indeed

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I know
llamonade

Violating traffic laws are can be civil or criminal offenses.

And of course there are different categories like misdemeanor and felony.

A quick google pops up some info about how in some states going over 100mph can result in a felony speeding ticket which has the possibility of including jail time.

llamonade
EndgameStudier wrote:

Not in ANY state is speeding ANY amount, a felony LMAO. 

"Driving over 100 mph may, under some circumstances, be a felony offense "

https://www.drivinglaws.org/resources/auto-accident/car-accident-claims/is-driving-over-100-mph-a-felony-offense

 

llamonade
EndgameStudier wrote:

That would place speeding a worse crime than child abuse, cruelty to animals, and even small theft! 

Gee, I wonder why.

Well... I don't wonder why, but maybe you should think about it.

llamonade

You sure are interested in speeding tongue.png

And it makes sense because driving recklessly can easily kill a lot of people.

llamonade

It's preventative.

If you wait until 5% of the population is killing someone due to poor driving it's a million times more costly.

Obviously some people could go over 100 and be fine, that's not how laws work though. You have to think in terms of society, not yourself.

I'm not even getting on some high horse like the law is so great, it's not. It's a blunt instrument, but it's all we've got, and it works well enough.

llamonade

So if you want to mock the law because it's arbitrary i.e. just some person wrote something down, then sure, I'll agree.

But if you want to say it doesn't make sense to have speed limits (and punishments some of which can include jail time) then I disagree.

llamonade

It depends on the ticket. Obviously the great majority of traffic offenses can be handled with a warning or small fine.

llamonade
EndgameStudier wrote:

What you, and many others, fail to understand is that making someone suffer in prison for years because you don't agree with how fast they were going, doesn't accomplish anything and is essentially just a lame attempt at making a point. There are soooooooo many roads where the speed limit is 20 to 30 mph lower than the road's engineering design speed and then the state considers 20 over, "reckless driving". See what I'm getting at? What you are saying is someone should spend years in jail for driving what a road was meant to handle in the first place! And if traffic flow is 20-30 over the speed limit, are you going to claim everyone deserves a felony placed on their permanent criminal record?? You don't think that's excessive? 95% of people drive an amount over the speed limit that can be considered reckless in most states, despite the fact that conditions can handle it, and people randomly get ticketed as if they are doing something wrong and different from everyone else. If I am driving even 200 mph out in Nevada where there is not one car for 50 miles on the perfectly straight flat road, are you going to call that risky to other people and reckless and deserves years and years in prison? Are you going to say that about yourself when you happen to glance at your speedometer and realize you are technically going 20 over along with other traffic and then think to yourself "Do I deserve 5 years in prison because I was driving 75 mph one time?" and give me an honest answer.

If everyone else is going 20 over the speed limit, then I do too, because that's sensible. To go 20 MPH slower than everyone else is dangerous.

If the speed limit is 50 (or even 60) then I think that's really slow.

Roads are engineered for speed? Unlikely. And if roads were the limiting factor then the speed limit would be like... 5000 MPH lol.

llamonade
EndgameStudier wrote:

I'm talking about going to jail for years for going 75 in a 55,

No one goes to jail for years for speeding 20 over, and I never suggested that should be the case.

llamonade

In areas where everyone is speeding, it's very unlikely you'll be pulled over because it means the regulars (the commuters for example) know there are no cops around, so they're free to do whatever.

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I definitely get the feeling that most lawmakers in the US are unqualified, and on top of it are also heavily influenced by money / power plays.

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I'm not aware of any interstates with a 45 mph speed limit.

llamonade
EndgameStudier wrote:
llamonade wrote:
EndgameStudier wrote:

I'm talking about going to jail for years for going 75 in a 55,

No one goes to jail for years for speeding 20 over, and I never suggested that should be the case.

North Carolina, considers 15 over, reckless driving, which is a class A misdemeanor in that state, which carries a prison sentence of up to 364 days.

Sure up to a year, but no mandatory time right. I'm sure they reserve the max sentence for cases where a lot of other stuff is going on and they want it to be punitive... like they robbed some guy at gun point then were weaving all over the road crashing into stuff.