Why did Japan surrender in WWII? Because it was a lost position.
Resigning in chess
It is a good thing to do in certain positions. But there have been quite a few times where my opponent has resigned (or even declined a draw) when they could've won if they had thought things through.
Is resigning in chess good or bad? And when to do it?
It's a bad thing. Winning is a good thing.
Do it when you feel like being bad.
Is resigning in chess good or bad? And when to do it?
It's a bad thing. Winning is a good thing.
Do it when you feel like being bad.
I mean resigning in a lost position
Emily,
these are some words spoken by Magnus Carlsen. I think he meant them for you.
"I can’t count the times I have lagged seemingly hopelessly far behind, and nobody except myself thinks I can win. But I have pulled myself in from desperate [situations]. When you are behind there are two strategies – counter-attack or all men to the defences. I’m good at finding the right balance between those."
If any complexity remains in a game then play on until you can learn absolutely nothing helpful. Sometimes in hopeless endgames the destined winner mistakenly allows a stalemate to occur.
Me, I'm more of the quitter type. I resign when I feel it is hopeless.
Well you'd look like a bit of an idiot to continue as you failed to notice the game was lost. By resigning you demonstrated your competence and preserved your respect as a player.
1) I think that Magnus Carlsen shouldn't necessarily be a role model for us in this. His ability to pull rabbits out of hats is "unusual"
2) However it is one thing to resign against a highly rated player who you know won't make a complete mess of it. It is something else to play a 1200-1400 rated player. Some of those don't know the basic end game theory and could easily turn a winning position into a losing one. I've more than once played 1400 rated players who failed to mate with K+R vs K. I've never played 1500 rated player who didn't know how to do that quickly and neatly. The more complicated the positioin the higher the chance of a stalemate, so it would be a sliding scale. Would I resign against anyone in a K+B+Kn end game? No I'd make them play it out and look closely at the number of moves for a 50 move draw.
3) I think it also matters which type of game you are playing. If you are playing a 1|0 game you should never resign since playing it out won't cost either of you a lot of time and time management is a key part of the game. However a 10|0 game where both players have a lot of time left is a different thing. At the very least if you're going to make him/her play it out to mate, move quickly yourself as not to waste his/her time.
4) Playing a losing position still gives you end game experience which is never a bad thing.I'm sure the 1400 rated players who failed to mate with K+R are the kind who always resign - otherwise they would know what to do.
I mostly play 2|1 and I'll resign lost positions against 1500 rated players but not against 1400 rated players based on my thoughts above.
Emily,
these are some words spoken by Magnus Carlsen. I think he meant them for you.
"I can’t count the times I have lagged seemingly hopelessly far behind, and nobody except myself thinks I can win. But I have pulled myself in from desperate [situations]. When you are behind there are two strategies – counter-attack or all men to the defences. I’m good at finding the right balance between those."
If any complexity remains in a game then play on until you can learn absolutely nothing helpful. Sometimes in hopeless endgames the destined winner mistakenly allows a stalemate to occur.
Me, I'm more of the quitter type. I resign when I feel it is hopeless.
Same here
OMG: amilton fantastic social faux pas.Prepare to be shot down.
Noone gives a crap, lord Kaynight.
Not resigning a lost position is bad form. IMO u less its blitz or bullet, trying to win on time is also bad etiquette.
Why did Japan surrender in WWII? Because it was a lost position.
They weren't going to though. The equivilant of the bombs is like having 4 extra queens but the side with the lone king still tries to avoid mate.
I play on till I am convinced that there is no hope..but I make my moves
very fast and rarely have I made a player wait ,even on line 3 days game ,
I make my move in less than 24 hrs ,come what may,but no need to resign
if u lost apiece or in a bad positionI shall later post some game id's of chess.com both my teamgames and vote chess game of my groups..
where a lost position is turned to a winning one..due to the blunders
of the opponent..
I resign if I don't think I can win or draw, AND if I'm bored of the game. I would consider resigning sooner if I was playing a much better player than I - especially if I wanted a rematch.
But at my level, being down a major piece (let alone a pawn) is no death sentence. Opponents of my skill aren't consistently accurate enough to guarantee a win in a winning position. And I don't see how you can improve your accuracy in those situations if you've never seen how they are played out. So in most cases for me, me or my opponent resigning is a little oxymoron. No?
http://www.chess.com/votechess/game?id=68606 game 1 .see on completion of move 32 who would have thought of a resign?..
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=108297306 game 2.my opponent
was higher than me rating at this time and watch completion of mov 10.
he was leading with a piece..and no compensation for me in sight except
a slight positional advantage..
Is resigning in chess good or bad? And when to do it?